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Dec 02, 2009

Climbing The Green Ladder: The Power of Partnerships

Hosted by Shari Aaron & Amy Fetzer (December 2009)

green ladderThere is no one route to sustainability and, as the old adage says, two heads (or three, four or five) are better than one.

Many businesses and individuals within them are making progress in sustainability because these employees have started meaningful conversations with those who come from “across the aisle.” They have engaged in conversations with colleagues across disciplines and departments, joined forces with competitors and co-created solutions with customers. Forward-thinking business leaders have sat down with groups who are concerned about social and environmental issues – such as NGO’s, non-profits and social entrepreneurs to develop meaningful solutions.

The great news for business leaders is that partnering with NGO’s, non-profits or social entrepreneurs doesn’t just salve your conscience, it can help to strengthen business.  It’s important to find effective ways to work together.

A great example is College Summit and Deloitte J. B. Schramm from College Summit teamed up with Deloitte to roll out a mentoring and support service that helps underprivileged high school students obtain college degrees and improve career prospects.  In US high schools, close to 50% of African-American and Latino students drop out between 9th and 12th grade. College Summit, run by social entrepreneur J. B. Schramm, wanted to help disadvantaged American high-school students to graduate from high school, go to college and get good jobs through his College Summit program.

As a leader in the professional services field, Deloitte is focused not only on recruiting high quality graduates but also on increasing diversity as their teams work in every corner of the US and around the world. Deloitte believes that an educated, diverse workforce is fundamental to business competitiveness. By these organizations working together, it allowed the program to ratchet up its impact in a way that neither organization could have achieved on its own.

These kind of partnerships lead to beneficial back scratching --business needs the talents, passion and understanding of the social entrepreneur and nonprofit professional to help them become more sustainable.

Guidelines to effective collaborations:

  • Be open
  • Identify your goals
  • Identify potential collaborators
  • Expand your networking
  • Check your “fit”
  • Work out your strategy
  • Assign tasks and responsibilities and be clear about ownership
  • Retain your independence


Questions:

  • Have you fully explored companies that might be a good match for needing your expertise and talents?
  • Do you approach your business meetings in a way that is professional and business-like yet open and honest, sharing your goals and aspirations?
  • Have you established adequate benchmarks and metrics to keep your work focused and objective?
  • If a previous relationship with a business organization didn't work out, do you assume that none can work and therefore have given up trying?  Is it time to revisit your strategy and start to reach out again?
     

Join sustainability and market research experts Amy Fetzer and Shari Aaron in the conversation.

 

Nov 12, 2009

Gen-Y: The Social Innovation Generation

Hosted by Saul Garlick (November 2009)

generationy_300.jpgMy generation doesn’t want to “paint a wall” or “pile bricks” in the developing world. Generation Y wants to do more.

Generation Y’s thirst is to create something lasting that works – sustainable projects that will continue to affect the lives of those in rural communities for years to come. My generation is creating a daycare center in South Africa that will attract students by providing lunch that it grows in its own garden. 

My generation wants to create something from conception to completion – from design to implementation.  My generation is creating a demonstration farm complete with a solar drip irrigation system that connects rural Kenyan farmers with modern farming technologies to replicate on their own land.

My generation wants to incorporate what it learns from its experience abroad about leveraging community resources to create sustainable development into its careers – as policymakers, as entrepreneurs, as eventual philanthropists.

The Associated Press this month reported:  “Parents in some of Africa's poorest countries are cutting back on school, clothes and basic medical care just to give their children a meal once a day.”

To address these issues, funds abound, but social change does not. Young people provide an untapped resource to redirect this ineffectual course. Their idealism and open-mindedness to new solutions create opportunities to empower communities to develop and own solutions to poverty. Generation Y is the generation of social innovation.

When I started ThinkImpact, an organization that has connected American college students and recent graduates from dozens of campuses nationwide with rural villages abroad to help reduce poverty through designing and implementing innovative projects, everyone had doubts that we’d be able to attract the best and the brightest to leave home for a year, to live in what are sometimes literal mud huts and to succeed in creating something sustainable. But there’s no shortage of young people – members of Generation Y – who want to alleviate poverty – as a career.

  • How can the next generation of funders better meet the demand for funding long-term projects, instead of short-term experiences?
  • How can we provide real opportunities for career development for these recent graduates when they are living in some of the most remote locations to help them go from their experience abroad to a career in development and social innovation?
  • How can we improve the “paint a wall programs” that currently exist and integrate them into new programs that allow more ingenuity and a longer term commitment, and thereby better suit Generation Y?

Join Saul Garlick, Founder and Executive Director of ThinkImpact, in the conversation.

Sep 10, 2009

Help! Maximizing Volunteer Impact

Hosted by Charles "hipbone" Cameron (September 2009)

mozillaserviceweek_300.jpgOur topic this week is how social entrepreneurs can most effectively leverage pro bono and volunteer support. Our goal is to gather positive but realistic advice about volunteers -- about ways we can harness their enthusiasm and energy to gain impact and bring projects to completion.
 
It's Mozilla Service Week this week, and that's their focus, too. "Be the Difference," their headline proclaims in big bold type. And the pitch continues:

 

We believe the Internet should make life better. Join us the week of September 14-21, 2009, as we take action to make a difference in our communities, our world, our Web.

You can see two buttons prominently displayed:

I want to help >> find out how
I need help >> get help now

 
The accompanying text explains the idea:


During the week of September 14-21, 2009, we're asking individuals to step up and make a difference by using the Web to better their community. We're looking for people who want to share, give, engage, create, and collaborate by offering their time and talent to local organizations and people who need their help.
 
Mozilla believes everyone should know how to use the Internet, have easy access to it, and have a good experience when they're online. By utilizing our community's talents for writing, designing, programming, developing, and all-around technical know-how, we believe we can make the Web a better place for everyone.


Those two buttons, "I want to help" and "I need help", are like the human condition in miniature. We could each wear one or both of them, I think, and it's perhaps not so surprising that here on the Net they become two very simple options, hard to miss.
 
If I'm not mistaken, the folks at DoGoodr are taking a similar approach, with their two main tabs reading "Need Help Posts" and "Offer Help Posts".
 
So what's up?
 
We need one another. And we can help one another. And there needs to be a way to match up those two things.
 
Here on The Edge this week, and this month, I'd like to point you to those two buttons at Mozilla Service Week, and those two tabs at DoGoodr -- but also invite you to talk here about what has worked for you, and what problems you've seen, in working with volunteers.
 

  • What are your tips from the trenches?
  • What are the realistic costs of managing volunteer work? How much staff times does it take in terms of training, management, etc?
  • And what are the very real benefits of volunteer work?
  • How have volunteers contributed to your project specific efforts?
  • From the volunteer perspective, what have you been able to offer, what have you accomplished?
  • And what problems, if any, arose? Lack of clarity as to goal or means? Sheer burnout?

 
Mozilla Service Week 's Featured Partners are Idealist.org, betterplace.org and OneWebDay. Here at Social Edge, we're among the Friends of Mozilla Service Week, along with such varied folks as All for Good, ChristianVolunteering.org, DemocracyInAction, DonorsChoose.org, The Extraordinaries, GiveIndia, Google, Grassroots.org, Pledgebank, PopTech, TechSoup Global and Zazengo.

Those two buttons aren't just buttons on a Web page -- they're doors opening on a social movement that has the potential to radically transform a vast diversity of human situations.

Which button do you need to press? Let's talk this through!

 

 

Sep 02, 2009

An insane job description?

Hosted by Curtis Chang (September 2009)

insane job description 300My firm, Consulting Within Reach, serves social ventures of all sizes. But I have a special place in my heart for the aspirations – and challenges – for the small to midsize nonprofit that is rapidly growing.

I’ve always thought the executive directors of such organizations should have much larger business cards. They should carry around large cardboard placards with room for the additional titles placed upon them:
 
·   Chief Financial Officer
·   Chief Information Officer
·   Chief Development Officer
·   Director of Marketing
·   Director of Human Resources
·   Director of Strategic Planning
·   … and many more.
 
Insane job descriptions are especially prevalent among growing nonprofits. The external impact of a dynamic organization’s almost always outstrips its internal capacity – often by a long shot. As a result, the executive leader is busy trying to master new internal organizational areas while directing the expanding mission.

It’s a bit like trying to add new parts to your car while you’re driving it.  At a high speed.

Why is this the case? Who is responsible?

·   Funders who don’t appreciate the value of investing in capacity?
·   Board members who don’t chip in more with their labor (while reviewing the ED according to an insane job description)?
·   Executive directors themselves for not setting better boundaries?

And even more importantly, what is the most effective solution? 

Let me propose one thought for the executive directors out there: wishing we could just get more money for new staff can’t be the main solution.

First, wishing isn’t a great recipe for solutions.

Second, this assumes that there is high quality talent willing to work on your staff, especially at your most coveted positions.  For instance, there are over 14,108 nonprofits in my local region, the San Francisco Bay Area. Are there really 14,108 excellent Directors of Development out there?

Third, let’s say I snap my fingers and give you enough money to hire another FTE.  Where would that go? And what critical areas of expertise does that decision still leave uncovered?

What do you think? Is there more fundamental rethinking needed about how expertise gets deployed in our sector? For instance, are there ways to share expertise more efficiently?

Are there practical suggestions you have coming from your experience with an insane job description?

Join Curtis Chang, CEO of Consulting Within Reach in the discussion. And tell us about your own job description.

Jun 18, 2009

Cross-Sector Partnering

Hosted by Hanniah Tariq (July 2009)

partneringwithgovernments_300.jpgCross-Sector Partnering and the capacity of the Public Sector

Partnering for sustainable development’ is a term that is used across the sectors to denote a hopeful way forward in face of the spiraling situation of poverty, conflict and social decline in many developing regions.

Practically speaking, governments in the developing world have a lot to gain from engaging in multi-sector partnerships for sustainable development (extending/improving services, delegating responsibility and accessing more capital among others). Evidence from all over the world suggests that governments in the developing world have much to achieve from partnering and that such initiatives are being used to carry out many important functions including expanding or improving some of the traditionally government specific duties.

However, in order to best avail of this opportunity that brings together the best of every sector for a common goal, each actor will have to evaluate what it brings to the table and how to make it work in a collaborative way.  One of the biggest obstacles to cross-sector partnerships has been observed to be problems relating to the government role in them. This is due to the dual nature of its role in that when endowed with the capacity to partner well, the government as an actor in a multi-sector partnership brings some very important capabilities/legitimacy to the mix; however, when hampered by institutional problems and bureaucracy it can be the one actor that other sectors are the least disposed to partner with.

Conversely, some skills that have been observed to be useful for the public sector in effective partnering with other sectors include:
•    the ability to access the grass roots awareness of the civil society and NGO’s to recognize critical social needs,
•    the faculty and channels to prioritize these societal problems to the private sector, and,
•    the capacity to negotiate and collaborate effectively with other sectors.

However, there are several other skills that the public sector will have to build to be able to capitalize on the partnership model for sustainable development that need to be identified and work done to build capacity on them. 
 
Clearly cross-sector partnerships are one of the most viable ways forward for developing countries, however it is critical to evaluate how ready the sectors are for partnering and what can be done to improve their competence for collaboration in order for cross-sector partnering to fulfill its potential promise.  Hence the questions raised about the government role at this point are:

•    What are the skills that can be counted as Good Partnering Skills for the public sector?
•    Are there any particular desirable skills for Partnering with the private sector?
•    Are there any specific required skills for partnering with the NGO sector/civil society?
•    What can be done to build the capacity of the public sector for effective partnering?

Hanniah Tariq is a doctoral candidate in Economic and Social Innovation at the University of Buckingham Business School, and Integral Enterprise Research Associate for TRANS4M (Four World Center for Social Innovation) in Geneva. Join her in the conversation.

Feb 27, 2009

Partnering with Business

Hosted by Rod Schwartz (May-June 2009)

partneringwithbusiness_300.pngPartnering with Business…or Dancing with the Devil?

Last November I wrote about a UK social enterprise called the Bright Ideas Trust which secured partnerships with Bank of America, The Prince’s Trust and a host of others.   These firms provide critical financial support, credibility and a range of other services. 

Technology firms such as Microsoft and Salesforce.com actively assist charities and social entrepreneurs, with free products. Sure, it may be in their selfish interest to “hook” these firms on their products, but in the process, don’t social entrepreneurs gain access to valuable resources?

When we at ClearlySo work with professional service vendors to develop products for our social business clients, this is another way of “partnering” with businesses, and each party is considered to gain something from the exchange. 

Normally the above are all considered “appropriate” business partnerships.  

But in Bangladesh, Grameen struck a “dream partnership” with Norwegian phone company Telenor to roll out a highly successful joint venture. The deal now has turned sour.  What went wrong with this business “partnership”? Do partners turn nasty when the fruits of cooperation are great?  Not very “social”, is it?

Telecoms firms are active all over the developing world, often working with local partners.  Is this exploitation or cooperation, and what factors will help determine which it will be?  Can social entrepreneurs do anything to ensure fairness? 

Are certain specific firms simply out of bounds for social enterprises? When The Body Shop sold out to L’Oréal (part-owned by Nestlé) observers reacted with rage.  “A step too far for an ‘ethical’ company”. It’s one thing for Ben & Jerry’s to be purchased by Unilever, but Nestlé…... 

What about other sectors? Defence contractors? Tobacco manufacturers? Or banks—today’s bête noire? Are some industry groups just beyond the pale? Can any self-respecting social enterprise engage in a partnership with these? 

What about energy companies—should social enterprises not engage with the well-regarded Shell Foundation because of some of the historically unpopular activities of its parent?  If BSkyB (Rupert Murdoch’s business in the UK) is a leader in certain aspects of working with social business—how should we view this, cynically or positively?

Partnerships with business, are they worth it or too problematic? Join Rod Schwartz, CEO of ClearlySo, in the conversation.
 

Aug 14, 2008

Desperately Seeking Hybrid Funds

Hosted by Villy Wang, President & CEO of BAYCAT (September 2008)

investor relations
Genetically speaking, hybrids are the offspring of two different breeds or species produced through human manipulation for specific desirable characteristics of both.  Whether this makes you think of tangelos (a mix of grapefruit & tangerine), or fuel-saving automobiles (gas & electric), or even golf clubs (iron & wood), it’s always about finding the best of both worlds. 

Enter the world of the hybrid nonprofit social enterprises, which creates the need for hybrid business models, hybrid funding, and thus hybrid professionals!

Specifically when it comes to raising money, even the vocabulary “fundraising” or “development director” versus “investing” or “investment relations manager” connotes different processes and personnel with different skill sets.  What really is the difference between writing a grant and a business proposal in the world of the hybrid nonprofit social enterprise? 

Although traditional grant makers are impressed that an organization has diverse sources of funding that include earned income, it is not necessarily a requirement for funding.  When do grants become investments that require a ROI?  In our hybrid nonprofit social enterprise at BAYCAT, clients enjoy the fact that their “fees” are really “investments” that further a social purpose that is also supported by public and private grants.  In fact, the growing trend is that our clients who pay us a fee also become donors, or vice versa.  Thus, a new hybrid “clienor” or “donorent” is born.  (yes, you heard these terms first on Social Edge!)

And as you scale your operations, who cultivates, manages and supports these relationships?  Do hybrid nonprofit social enterprises have to invest greater resources in establishing a traditional development department, an investor relations team and a sales/client management division?  

Perhaps one way to think about this issue is that the fundraising/investment world is really at a non-existent or nascent stage for social enterprises, and that is why we work so hard at hybrid fund development tactics: 

Wherever you go in the world, most social entrepreneurs are acutely aware of the problem of the “missing middle” – the gap between the traditional funding of nonprofit ventures through grants…and the more substantial financial investments necessary for rapid expansion.  The Power of Unreasonable People, John Elkington and Pamela Hartigan

Therefore, as we develop new sources of ‘hybrid’ funding, isn’t it just as important to develop a pool of hybrid fundraising/money making professionals?  

  • How can we run our nonprofit social enterprises efficiently so we can manage donors, investors, clients and clienors/donorents?
  • Where do we find these hybrid fund developers?  
  • What do we call them and pay them?
  • How do we stay competitive with the marketplace?

Join Villy Wang, President & CEO of BAYCAT, in the conversation.

Oct 01, 2007

Partnerships for Global Solutions

Hosted by Edith Asibey (October 2007)

partnerships for global solutionsEdith Asibey (Asibey Consulting) is no stranger to global issues. She has advocated for universal access to education, poverty alleviation and sustainable development in the Global South and the U.S. The scope and urgency of these challenges has alerted Edith to the need for effective partnerships for global solutions.


Building upon my participation in the 2007 edition of the Clinton Global Initiative, I am hosting this conversation about effective partnerships to tackle the world’s biggest challenges: what works, what doesn’t and why?

Partnerships are at the core of the Clinton Global Initiative. During the three-day conference there were numerous examples of the different partnerships that CGI is enabling. 

But at a more basic level, the building blocks for a partnership were best summarized by President Clinton during his opening remarks:

“The premise of CGI is that we are faced with complex problems that government is either not solving or that government alone can not solve […]

What brought us together and what connects us, as nearly as I can determine, are three basic convictions: First, just about everybody in this room believes that our common humanity is more important than our interests and differences […] Second, we seem to all accept our share of responsibility for correcting as much as we can the current challenges of the world and passing along a better world to our children. 

Third, we actually believe we can do it.  We believe we can make a difference.”

Let’s expand upon President Clinton’s description and explore what it takes to build successful partnerships:
-    What are the key ingredients for partnerships that work?  What lessons can be learned?  Are there replicable experiences?
-    Is innovation a must-have for successful partnerships?
-    Should partnerships always involve governments to ensure long-term implementation and scale?
-    We often hear that many partnerships are motivated by public-relations interests; is that good or bad?

Join Edith Asibey in the conversation.

Sep 10, 2007

Volunteers for International NPOs (Part 3)

Hosted by Patrick O'Heffernan (September 2007)

Sources of Internsvolunteers

Part 1 (Hiring Volunteers) is here.
Part 2 (Resources for Training and Managing Volunteers) is here.

Many NPOs and FPO's use programs that train existing volunteers and staff either in topical areas, like sustainable development, or in broad skills like leadership and international negotiation. 

Some of these programs are also sources of interns for NGOs. I will describe two of the best I know of –one US and one international- and ask members of the community to post  the names and URLs of others they know.

One of the most comprehensive international programs is Leadership for Environment and Development, or LEAD International.  Based in London and operating through offices in 14 countries, this 16- year old organization trains mid-level staff or volunteers from NGOs, corporations, media, and government in sustainable development and leadership in a global context.  The training is designed to focus on strengthening knowledge of sustainable development and enhancing key leadership skills among new groups of leaders. The majority of training is undertaken at the regional level, with additional inter-regional and international components available. A key part of the training is meeting and working with others from around the world and developing a global network of useful contacts. LEAD also offers training and leadership consulting to for-profit and non profit organizations.  The LEAD website offers free case studies NGOs can use in their internal training.

In the US, the 64-year old Coro Center for Leadership, founded in San Francisco but now operating through independent offices in seven cities, trains rising high school students and recent college graduates in leadership and civic engagement through projects and internships. Applicants must go through a rigorous national selection process. Those selected become Coro Fellows in Public Policy. 

Each Fellow is assigned to a series of month-long consulting projects across a variety of sectors in public affairs, such as government, business, political campaigns, organized labor, media and non-profits. They also undertake group and individual projects.  Coro also offers training programs to US-based corporations and non profits and places interns in both for and non-profit organizations for a small fee.  

LEAD International, Coro and other similar programs have developed extensive networks of graduates that provide job leads, referrals, reviews, and assistance on projects.  These networks that are often cited by graduates as the aspect of training with the most long-term value to both graduates and the organizations they work for. 

So what organization is your favorite source of interns?  Click here and tell us.

Aug 20, 2007

Volunteers for International NPOs (Part 2)

Hosted by Patrick O'Heffernan (August 2007)

Resources for Training and Managing Volunteers
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Part 1 (Hiring Volunteers) is here.

Many NPO’s and NGO's could not function without volunteers. To some a volunteer is a person who comes into the office a few hours every week; for others, it means hundreds of individuals or professionals who are the NGO's day-to-day operation. Excellent sources for an overview of volunteer management are the Free Management Library, ServiceLeader and Volunteer Resource of the Points of Light Foundation..

Volunteer management begins with recruitment and selection. Always recruit with a carefully written job description detailing the tasks, level of expertise and education needed for the job. Selection can be done by reviewing an application form, conducting interview or doing background check. See the Canadian organization CASAanet for guidelines on background checks, and Energize Inc. for tips on interviewing.

Formal training can range from having an experienced volunteer train new ones on the job – an excellent process – to giving actual classes. Be careful about creating expectations for training. Since receiving training may be a motivation for some volunteers you must be clear that it is not given in exchange for the volunteer's time but so that they can carry out their role more efficiently. Training should be designed by and involve the staff members who will supervise the volunteers or who work in the same area. For help and information on training volunteers, see the UK site CharityDays, and the US-based Senior Corps Tech Center on motivating and training volunteers.

Managing volunteers involves insuring they show up, know and do their job, understand and follow your organization's rules, and fit into the organization without causing problems. The first three can be handled with training. Fitting in is best handled by screening out potential problems in the interview process. Since the motivation for volunteering can range from wanting to give back to looking for a mate, you must recognize and exclude potential volunteers who can interfere with the organization's mission by antagonizing staff or funders, gossiping, or otherwise engaging in inappropriate behavior. See Energize, Inc. and the World Volunteer Web for hints.

My preferred management method is to assign a staff member the role of Volunteer Coordinator, which may be a full-time job or be full time during recruitment and interviewing and then part-time during management.  The Volunteer Coordinator manages the volunteers through training, volunteer meetings, monitoring their work and their punctuality, motivating them with events, awards, and recognition, and if necessary, retraining or even dismissing those volunteers who engage in inappropriate activities. 

A special case for volunteer management is the use of volunteer professionals such as doctors or computer specialists or attorneys. Professionals rarely need close supervision but often require support in the form of information, access to files, contacts, as well as a basic grounding in the organization's mission and protocols. In addition to the volunteer management sources mentioned above, an excellent example of how an organization recruits, trains and manages professionals is United For Sight.

Let us know how you manage volunteers. Click here and join Patrick O’Heffernan in the conversation.

Aug 14, 2007

Volunteers for International NPOs (Part 1)

Hosted by Patrick O’Heffernan (August 2007)

Part 2 (Resources for Training and Managing Volunteers) is here.

Does your non-profit organization (NPO) use volunteers? Many do and the recruiting, training and managing of volunteers are important skills – almost as important as fundraising.
volunteers
The first step is to determine which you need –volunteers or interns. Volunteers are people who serve the community or organization without compensation, motivated by altruism, a desire to meet people, religious convictions or because it makes them feel good (which it does!).

Interns work in a temporary position in businesses, government or for NPOs receiving on-the-job training. Interns may be paid and receive college or job credit, although internships in NPOs are often unpaid or subsidized by another organization. Typically, interns require a more organized training and management program than volunteers to meet the terms of their internship.

Many organizations train volunteers and provide them to NPOs: large programs like the U.S. Peace Corps, Rotary International or the UN Volunteers, and smaller ones like V.I.E., focused on a single skill set or on a single region or village. You can find a partial index of organizations that recruit, train or provide volunteers around the world at ServiceLeader.

You may also consider joining the International Volunteer Programs Association so that potential volunteers can find you in their database.

You should also investigate Global Volunteers, an American NPO founded in 1984 to promote peace through international understanding by sending volunteers to assist with rural work projects around the world. Global Volunteers has special consultative status with UN ECOSOC and invites applications from NGOs that meet its criteria.

You should also be familiar with the Berlin-based International Cultural Youth Exchange. With offices, national committees and community service networks worldwide, ICYE is one of the largest youth exchange/volunteer organizations in the world. It promotes intercultural learning and voluntary service through home stays combined with community projects. NGOs that wish to register with ICYE as a host should get in touch directly with the ICYE National Committee in their country or fill in the Expression of Interest Form on the website.

A new area of volunteerism is volunteer tourism (VT) – combining a vacation with community service. VT is controversial because many of the organizations involved are for-profit and some critics maintain that the focus is often more on tourism than volunteering. But the organizations involved range from universities to travel agencies and often provide uniquely qualified and hardworking volunteers. NGOs should check out the volunteer tourism industry magazines Brave New Traveler or Transitions Abroad (both with a western point of view) for an overview.

You should also check Charity Guide, a U.S.-based nonprofit dedicated to facilitating flexible volunteer opportunities, both through VT and general volunteering. Although most of the site is dedicated to actions individuals can take independently, it also refers potential volunteers who want to work with specific organizations. If you want to be considered for referrals, you should contact the management team.

Finally, if you know exactly what kind of volunteers you need and prefer not to go through an organization or association or rely on volunteering tourists, you should post your volunteer position on Idealist.

Add to this toolbox and join Patrick O’Heffernan in the conversation.

May 08, 2007

Black Swans

Hosted by Charles "Hipbone" Cameron (May 2007)

black swansWorking with the Unexpecteds

Nassim Nicholas Taleb just published The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable.  It is one of those books -- like Gladwell's Tipping Point or Surowiecki's The Wisdom of Crowds -- that adds a new and often counterintuitive idea into the general mind-soup. 

In Taleb's case, the new and counterintuitive idea is that it's not what we know which might help us navigate the future, but what we don't.

To focus this approach on our concerns here as social entrepreneurs: one strong implication of the book is that the next extraordinarily successful venture – in our field as in the wider economic sphere – will be one that doesn't look all that obvious at first glance.

So how will we – as individuals, as funders, as a movement, recognize it?

Here's Taleb on entrepreneurship:

The next killing in the restaurant business needs to be an idea that is not easily conceived of by the current population of restaurateurs.  It has to be at some distance from expectations.  The more unexpected the success of such a venture, the smaller the number of
competitors, and the more successful the entrepreneur who implements the idea.  The same applies to the shoe and book businesses or any kind of entrepreneurship.

Put like that, it seems fairly obvious – though it's not the way we usually look at things, not the way we "work".

I'd like to explore the implications of that paragraph with the social entrepreneurial community.  I think there's a great conversation to be had here, because Taleb's pitch for the "idea not easily conceived of" needs to be balanced, or perhaps followed, by the idea of the "second-mover advantage".

The thing is, we know how to be second movers – all we have to do is watch and learn.  But here are my questions:

• How do we recognize a positive black swan opportunity?
• How do we convey its benefit to others, since it's non-obvious by definition?
• How can venture and foundation folk nurture black swans?
• How can we ride them?

Join Charles "Hipbone" Cameron in the conversation.

Jan 16, 2007

Play around, procrastinate, make a mess...

Hosted by Charles Cameron (January 2007)

playaroundprocrastinatemakeamess

This event with the somewhat quirky title is really about styles of management, both personal and institutional -- and the idea is that there's much to be gained from counter-intuitive strategies.

Charles "Hipbone" Cameron offered to host this item after reading a very positive LA Times review of Eric Abrahamson and David H. Freedman's new book, A Perfect Mess: The Hidden Benefits of Disorder--How Crammed Closets, Cluttered Offices, and On-the-Fly Planning Make the World a Better Place.

That review in turn triggered fond memories of James Ogilvy's Living Without a Goal, and behind them both, the don't push the river Taoist philosophy of Lao Tze and Chuang Tze, which is at once humorous, profound, and deeply counter-intuitive.

There are, he tells us, a thousand books supporting effort, organization, tidiness, planning, timeliness and so forth -- but none of them would be necessary if humans weren't also so predisposed to be inefficient, disorganized, untidy, unplanned and procrastinating, a side of things which may have a great contribution to make but which is seldom recommended by those who want their lives purpose-driven and full of effective traits.

According to Charles "Hipbone" Cameron, some of you may already be masters of taking randomness (often called chaos) and bringing it into order -- but for those whose orderliness precludes the random, there's much to be said for loosening the tie, opening the top button of the shirt, rolling up the sleeves and getting messy, erratic, relaxed, inquisitive, all jazzed up and drifty.

It's a form of listening. It lets reality to speak to us in ways that question our otherwise sacred assumptions. It allows "emergent properties" to, well, "emerge" from systems. And it's fun.

Einstein was a master of this "way" -- and in fact it's something you'll often find in absolutely top flight people. But it's not often discusssed, perhaps because it runs so counter to the grain of all the other advice we ever receive.

Let's talk about it. Let's discuss messy desks, failures to make deadlines that turned out for the best, chance encounters that brought purpose to our lives or the lives of those around us.

What's your story? I'll tell you mine...


amanuel melles - Jan 16, 2007 8:58 pm (# Total: 25)
With people, with ideas, in action

What matters is results

Thanks for bringing up this issue. As a director, I never worry about my staff's cluttered desks. Everyone has his or her own way of getting "organized"...what matters to me is the bottomline: that what I expect them to do, is done. Of course, people waste more time trying to find materials they need in a cluttered work environment. But people often compensate by the additional time they spend to ensure their work is completed.

Natural ecosystems are often regenerated through random and choatic events (coral reefs bleaching; forest fires). The reality of today's workplace and organizations (artificial ecosystems) is that order,  tidiness and strategic planning are rewarded. We don't know how to handle messy, creative and usually productive  staff.

amanuel



zoe brooks - Jan 17, 2007 2:35 am (# Total: 25)
East Oxford Action

Creativity = organised mess

My husband worked for a number of the top publishing firms and tells me he could always tell how creative and original the company was by the messiness of the desks - the messier the more creative. I spent several years working in community arts and theatre and my observation supports my husband's position.

Creativity often comes from the juxtaposition of apparently unrelated ideas. Even the time "wasted" tidying up my desk is important to me, I find the random shuffling of papers allows me to see connections. Once the papers are filed they cease to exist. That is not to say that order is not also needed - there is a need for people who tidy up and organise within any organisation and moreover creativity is after all about bringing a new order to chaos. But for too long the tidy police have been patrolling offices!


ClaraJ - Jan 17, 2007 4:14 am (# Total: 25)
Founder: Be Good, Give Goooood (tm?), Promote Good

Adding +/- 10-20% for the ultimate designer

Purposeful random chaos/play/procrastination introduce and allow for the ultimate designer (energy or incarnate) into the creative process. It is INDEED "a form of listening" (Cameron) and a way to ask for help in "LINKING apparently unrelated ideas." (Brooks)

??? I'm a theist.. hipbone... would you elaborate on what you mean by the "don't push the river" Taoist philosophy? The river is a great image.. one that I use in my personal definition of spirituality.. taken from a quote by Tolstoy.

Namaste Chiara


Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Jan 17, 2007 11:27 am (# Total: 25)
HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

responding to your terrific responses

Hey, I'm impressed. I expected this topic would either be attacked by the forces of tidiness and timeliness, or ignored -- and lo, three of you have written in taking positive attitudes to the disgracefully untidy suggestion I've made! ; )



  • Amanuel, I thank you for the mention of corals and fires, and for your comment that (normally) "order, tidiness and strategic planning are rewarded". Perhaops Abrahamson and Freedman's book will loosen things up a bit -- but isn't it encouraging to see others here with a high tolerance, and even respect, for cluttered desks and creative minds? The correlation between the two is instructive!

    One of the most brilliant minds I've ever met, a senior researcher and modeling software developer at the Brookings Institution, has a desk piled high with books and papers which overflow across the floor -- up to the same height -- for sveral feet on either sidxe of the desk. Most impressive.



  • Zoe: great to read you here. East Oxford? somewhere out past Magdalen bridge, then? Headington, Cowley? Oxford's my once-upon-a-time home town.

    You write:
      Creativity often comes from the juxtaposition of apparently unrelated ideas.
    That's absolutely right,and we can go a little further and specify that the juxtaposition comes about through an analogy or homology between the two disparate ideas... That juxtaposition, indeed, is the precise target of my HipBone Games:


  • Clara:

    Please allow me to hold my response to you over for another post -- I have a rather long quote I'd like to deliver, and fear it would overwhelm this one!


  • Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Jan 17, 2007 11:53 am (# Total: 25)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [Clara] Adding +/- 10-20% for the ultimate designer

    Hi Clara:

    You asked:
      would you elaborate on what you mean by the "don't push the river" Taoist philosophy?
    I think the best way I can express it is via a quote from Alan Watts and Al Huang's book, Tao: The Watercourse Way:
      Because ink is mostly water, Chinese calligraphy – controlling the flow of water with the soft brush as distinct from the hard pen – requires that you go with the flow. If you hesitate, hold the brush too long in one place, or hurry, or try to correct what you have written, the blemishes are all too obvious. But if you write well there is at the same time the sensation that the work is happening on its own, that the brush is writing all by itself – as a river, by following the line of least resistance, makes elegant curves. The beauty of Chinese calligraphy is thus the same beauty which we recognize in moving water, in foam, spray, eddies, and waves, as well as in clouds, flames, and weavings of smoke in sunlight. The Chinese call this kind of beauty the following of li, an ideogram which referred originally to the grain in jade and wood... Li is the pattern of behavior which comes about when one is in accord with the Tao, the watercourse of nature.
    Taoism as a philosophy aims for the natural flow (think also of Milhalyi Csikszentmihalyi's book, Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience) of the river or watercourse, for a path or way that neither "tries too hard" nor "gives up in despair" -- but rather, in a delicate and continuously sensed balance, moves through life without undue stress and with innate gracefulness.

    The watercourse way is not "as the crow flies" -- direct and rigid as a line drawn with a straight edge -- nor is it tortured by its own complexity. If I can put it this way, it allows for eddies and picks up stray leaves as it flows ever onwards...


    ClaraJ - Jan 17, 2007 12:17 pm (# Total: 25)
    Founder: Be Good, Give Goooood (tm?), Promote Good

    Very cool

    Love the ink image! Have not done calligraphy... but remembering the scene from "crouching tiger" & remembering the calligraphy at the asian museums I've been to... you are exactly right!

    The funny thing is this watercourse way as you describe it... I learned its management style from my ED at Sanctuary Arts Center - an art center for homeless youth - Leslie had a way of managing by the Holy Spirit (that would be the Christian equivalent metaphor to what you're talking about... the Father/Son parts of the trinity has a "as the crow flies" qualities about it... but listening to the Holy Spirit of the trinity... well, you HAVE to listen to how the "Way" is operating *already* in our lives. For profit Msft taught me the "as the crow flies" management style. Not for profit SAC taught me the "watercourse" management style.

    There's also another favorite Taoist saying ... there are 3 kinds of leadership: those who are anonymous, those who are loved, and those who are feared. Well, based on my experience, you can only lead anonymously by paying GR8 attention to the WAY - whether that's Taoist or the Holy Spirit of the Trinity.

    Clara


    tutormentor - Jan 18, 2007 7:32 am (# Total: 25)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Cluttered desk - sign of entrepreneur?

    Some random thoughts on this topic.

    I vote for the cluttered desk. Give me flat space, I fill it with papers and books. In the book titled The Spider and the Star fish there is a reference to how some people thrive in ambiguity and others require structure.

    I've read management books that talk of stages of growth. When your in the creative stage there is lots of ambuguity because you're building something new, and generally don't have lots of help doing it. As the organization grows, the need for structure, and the resources to provide structure grow. That's becasue a larger organization needs to find organized ways to keep everyone focused on the same goals. Maybe this goes overboard and stiffles innovation. That's probably another discussion.

    The idea of going with the flow is an important one. I'm constantly reaching out to people all over the country/world. Yet, I can't control how fast they respond. I have to go with the flow.

    However, I think the role of the entrepreneur, or the innovator, is to sometimes dig a canal, and change the flow of the river. If we keep doing what we have done in the past (flow of the river), we keep getting the same results.


    ClaraJ - Jan 18, 2007 7:45 am (# Total: 25)
    Founder: Be Good, Give Goooood (tm?), Promote Good

    Paragliding Management Style

    True, social justice agents have to know when to change the flow of the river... however... I think.. if we want the kind of change akin to the Berlin Wall (a peaceful revolution) vs. the civil rights movement (a peaceful yet violent revolution), then I think the answer lies not so much in digging a canal, as to know when to change flows of river. A paraglider moves from air current to air current - so the sign of an anonymous leader is one who moves from river to river depending on a divinely inspired calling. MLK Jr. had it! And so did Gandhi!

    And still, yet, sometimes, I agree, changing flows or brushes is not sufficient. There are times we have to grunt and dig a canal - but then we have to be prepared for massive resistance from the water. The higher the good, the greater the evil that resurrects in all of us.

    Amen.


    tutormentor - Jan 18, 2007 12:58 pm (# Total: 25)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Quote from How to Change the World

    I'm reading this book now and one quote that got my attention was "In the fight for an ideal, we face those who are deceptive, envious and incompetent. The man who is firm pays no mind to such poeople and wastes no time counting them. For he who marches toward the light need not worry about what occurs in the darkness."

    This was praise of Prof. Ennio Amaral, who through his wwork made it possible for poor people in the fields of Brazil to gain access to electric energy benefits.


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Jan 21, 2007 6:33 pm (# Total: 25)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [ClaraJ] Very cool / Paragliding

    Re: [ClaraJ] Very cool / Paragliding

    I have to admit I'm not too surprised to see your suggested link between the Taoist "watercourse way"” and Christian "Holy Spirit" – but then I got my degree in theology, so I lean that way anyway. And Tao is one of the suggested translations of Logos in Chinese. Having said which, I wanted to sidestep that issue and keep on the mess, randomness and procrastination line of inquiry, which is why I was a bit quiet for a while on first reading your post.



  • On the subject of knowing when to change flows of river -- I think that’s a great question, and we’re very fortunate to have two brilliant documents from Donella Meadows on the subject:

    Places to Intervene in a System
    http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid790.php
      An astonishingly important paper for anyone hoping to change the way things are, this is Dana’s classic account of where interventions will have the greatest impact. Using Jay Forrester’s systems theory as her basis, she shows that the greatest impact doesn’t come by influencing quantities (numbers, material stocks and flows) but from playing with the rules of the system (incentives, punishment, constraints), the power of self-organization, the goals of the system, and above all the mindset or paradigm out of which the goals, rules, feedback structure arise.
    Dancing with Systems: What to do when systems resist change
    http://www.sustainabilityinstitute.org/pubs/Dancing.html
      This is an excerpt from Donella Meadows's unfinished last book. She suggests that while systems thinking says the future can't be predicted, it can be envisioned and brought lovingly into being. Systems can't be controlled, but they can be designed and redesigned. We can't surge forward with certainty into a world of no surprises, but we can expect surprises and learn from them and even profit from them. We can't impose our will upon a system, but we can listen to what the system tells us, and discover how its properties and our values can work together to bring forth something much better than could ever be produced by our will alone. A brilliant essay in favor of a fully human and humane understanding of complex situations, problems.
    -- and note the "watercourse way" thinking that’s present there, too!


  • Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Jan 21, 2007 6:41 pm (# Total: 25)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [Tutormentor] Cluttered desk / Quote

    Dan:

    Hello once again:
      When your in the creative stage there is lots of ambuguity because you're building something new, and generally don't have lots of help doing it. As the organization grows, the need for structure, and the resources to provide structure grow. That's becasue a larger organization needs to find organized ways to keep everyone focused on the same goals. Maybe this goes overboard and stiffles innovation. That's probably another discussion.
    Yes, but an important one. The anthropologist Victor Turner [in his masterpiece, The Ritual Process] argued that St Francis was trying to create a permanently “liminal” community – one where the creative stage would continue past his own death – in the form of the Franciscan order, but that such an attempt is doomed to failure, and that even before he died the Order was self-organizing in ways that undercut his original sense of values.

    Turner makes it clear why the liminal is a necessary refreshement to the normal, but cannot possibly replace it. It's a fascinating I'm drifting close to religious studies again. Let's get back to(wards) business!
      I think the role of the entrepreneur, or the innovator, is to sometimes dig a canal, and change the flow of the river. If we keep doing what we have done in the past (flow of the river), we keep getting the same results.
    I’d rephrase that to say the flow sometimes mandates the digging of canals in new and unexpected directions <grin>. Otherwise, I heartily agree.


    beautiful complexity - Jan 24, 2007 5:54 am (# Total: 25)
    Learning at the Intersection of Art, Enterprise & the Environment

    Messy Desks and Liminal Moments

    As a social & environmental entrepreneur I found myself recently at the liminal moment in time between 2 years of my setting up of a complex project (alone and with little help) and the next phase where people have come to the table to help create a bigger vision.  My desk has been so messy for the past 6 months I have abandoned it in favor of the less distracting dining room table.  Last week I found myself sort of stuck and mindlessly started to clean up one of my shelves.  I came across an old notebook from several years ago, way before my current project was even dreamed of.  I was astonished to find things in that book that directly relate to my current project and the exact stage I find myself at.  The first line in the book is, "All beginnings are mysteries, the mystery of creation" Henri Amiel.  A few pages in I found something I must have copied down from some book or webpage, The 5 componets of Creativity - Foraging, Reflecting, Adopting, Nurturing and Knuckling Down - All of these actions suggest messiness rather than neat and tidy well managed and lineal processes.  My philosophy at the moment is to create, it hardly matters what, but the act of creation seems to keep me in the flow.



    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Jan 25, 2007 9:58 am (# Total: 25)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    messy car poem

    Here for your general enjoyment is a poem that, shall we say, leans towards the miracle of messiness? It's about car ownership and family...

    I wish I could get the software here to do a triple indent, so that the poem itself could be set off with a wide margin and white space all around it -- poetry deserves that kind of treatment IMO.

    But anyway, the poem...

    The Rules of the New Car
    by Wesley McNair

    After I got married and became
    the stepfather of two children, just before
    we had two more, I bought it, the bright
    blue sorrowful car that slowly turned
    to scratches and the flat black spots
    of gum in the seats and stains impossible
    to remove from the floor mats. Never again,
    I said as our kids, four of them by now,
    climbed into the new car. This time,
    there will be rules. The first to go
    was the rule I made for myself about
    cleaning it once a week, though why,
    I shouted at the kids in the rearview mirror,
    should I have to clean if they would just
    remember to fold their hands. Three years
    later, it was the same car I had before,
    except for the dent my wife put in the grille
    when, ignoring the regulation about snacks,
    she reached for a bag of chips on her way
    home from work and hit a tow truck. Oh,
    the ache I felt for broken rules,
    and the beautiful car that had been lost,
    and the car that we now had, on soft
    shocks in the driveway, still unpaid for.
    Then one day, for no particular reason except
    that the car was loaded down with wood
    for the fireplace at my in-laws’ camp
    and groceries and sheets and clothes
    for the week, my wife in the passenger seat,
    the dog lightly panting beside the kids in the back,
    all innocent anticipation, waiting for me
    to join them, I opened the door to my life.


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Jan 25, 2007 10:07 am (# Total: 25)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [beautiful complexity] Messy Desks and Liminal Moments

    Wonderful post!

    Is the Boyne River (of the Boyne River Project, which I learned about in your member's bio) the same river in Ireland which gave us the celebrated Battle of the Boyne? Your facility sounds remarkable indeed. Very much my kind of place.


    Cordelia Salter-Nour - Jan 26, 2007 12:39 am (# Total: 25)
    eShopAfrica.com

    squalor versus mess!

    Like others in this discussion I believe in a healthy, creative mess... but the car poem touches on squalor which is a different thing.

    I was lucky with my children - they grew up in West Africa where any food mess was immediately located by ants who patrolled every square inch of the house 24/7. 

    No eating cookies in bed for my kids.... in the night the ants would be there to clean up the smallest crumb.  If you left a candy bar lying around within minutes it would be covered in ants. Highly recommended to create hygiene awareness!



    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Jan 26, 2007 10:38 am (# Total: 25)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [Cordelia] squalor versus mess!

    Ha! Actually I agree, mess can be creative, gum (in general, affixed to furniture etc) isn't. But it's interesting, the army of ants which you see as virtuously cleaning up the crumbs would be viewed by my wife as far worse than crumbs themselves. In Southern California context.

    Myself, I'm busy at the computer...


    Cordelia Salter-Nour - Jan 30, 2007 4:45 am (# Total: 25)
    eShopAfrica.com

    Re: [Cordelia] squalor versus mess!

    I didn't really think of them as my cleaners... more as my squalid behaviour detectives

    your wife may have personal reasons not to like ants but in fact ants are very clean... members of their colonies are designated as cleaners and ants that farm produce anti-biotics to protect their crops (or should that be ant-i-biotic?)

    don't think your computer is safe either... at various times I had colonies of ants setting up residence inside my scanner, speakers and laptop... they would just move in overnight

    but as the combined weight of ants is greater than the weight of humans I figure they're here to stay!



    beautiful complexity - Jan 30, 2007 2:58 pm (# Total: 25)
    Learning at the Intersection of Art, Enterprise & the Environment

    Boyne River

    No Charles - its one of 2 Boyne Rivers in Southern Ontario.  The facilities include the first several miles of pristine source water from several small rivulettes and streams (very messy arrangement of water flowing down through a valley)  Great trout fishing & a fish hatchery to boot!  This Boyne River is about collaboration not the divisions created by the Battle of the Boyne.


    Marguerite - Jan 30, 2007 9:05 pm (# Total: 25)

    Messy Mind

    Hi Charles -

    Long time no post here. But forget the messy desk -- I have a messy mind. It goes in about 10 different directions at a time and I never know which one to follow. 

    I seem to always have at least two and sometimes four or five different projects or thought paths going at one time.  I read the same way -- four or five different books laying scattered around the house -- I read a chapter from one then another.  Just can't seem to stay with one thing for long or my mind just goes blank. 

    But the "multi-tasking" works for me in that somehow things seem to fit together and flow -- you know something from one project or thought or book will cross-link with something else and then patterns start to emerge and make sense from what seemed in the beginning to be a jumbled chaotic and unrelated mess. 

    I go to sleep at night and never remember dreaming, but in the morning most times with the first thoughts of the day a complete picture of something I was puzzling about will emerge. 

    My thoughts tumble out in the same jumbled manner as I skip from one subject to another in conversation -- drives people around me nuts trying to figure out where I'm at, but it works for me.  Which is why my live-in companion is my dog Sweet Pea -- she just keeps listening as long as I scratch her back, and life is rosy. 

    I've been referre to by several former companions as:  "The crazy lady". 

    Well, catch you later -- I'm off to see the wizard.

    Wish I had your knack for keeping these discussions going. You always seem to know the right thing to say/write.  Amazing.

     

     

     

     

          

     

     

       

     



    Eva-Marie - Jan 31, 2007 5:09 am (# Total: 25)

    Dear Marguerite,

    I read your article and was deeply impressed.

    Everything has two sides.

    Of course changing from one theme to another can be a sign of fatigue and less concentration, but on the other hand it can be a sign of creativity as well. It can possibly enreach life and believe me, not only yours. So if people can´t follow your associations maybe it is not primarily your fault.

    By the way, in working with my patients it was very helpfully to to be empathically with them, because I could see the picture in front of my eyes and after getting one peace of the puzzle I could often take the conclusion about the story behind the story. 

    Friendly Regards

    Eva-Marie

     

     



    Marguerite - Jan 31, 2007 9:13 pm (# Total: 25)

    Everything has two sides (and more)

    Hi Eva-Marie,

    Thanks for your gentle and perceptive comments. 

    You're right about the creativity part and its allowed me to put very large projects together in a very short time while everyone else is still at step one, and to solve problems that seemingly have no answers.  So, it wasn't my intent to come across as complaining, except men do seem to like dumb blondes better.  But there is always the exception to the rule.

    Anyway, like with the "cluttered desk" a "messy  mind" creates chaos, but there is an order within chaos that emerges if you let it. And that's where change begins on the edge of chaos.  So what I was saying is that we should encourage the chaos and then just sit back, relax and watch to see where the multi-dimensional patterns are emerging and let the sub-conscious or the intuitive mind bring them together in a natural and organic manner. Be open to letting life take us down a path instead of trying to create the path. Yet always being in control enough to make a  conscious choice to reach out and tweek it if we see a better way.

    In this way we're enouraging both sides of the brain to get involved.  Whereas our current educational system emphasizes left-brain linear thinking.  And left-brain linear can't manage reality because it fails to see the whole dynamic of the situation.

    So, most of us are driving down the freeway of life able to see out of only one side of our vehicle.  And, we wonder why we keep crashing.  Two marvelous books on this are:  Smart Moves - Why Learning Isn't All In Your Head and Brain Dominance by neuroscientist, Dr.Carla Hannaford. 

    As a therapist,? Eva-Marie it's marvelous that you are able to work with your clients from a holodynamic plane where the view is expansive. 

     

     

     



    arabianmonkey - Feb 1, 2007 11:29 am (# Total: 25)
    filmmakers change everything!

    Thundering in....and breaking out

    In a community undergoing enormous transformation, with a cultural challenge towards diversity and embracing change, I've found myself adamant to engage in the 'system', while maintaining a disheveled attitude and packaging, and total individuality. I’ve also noticed that I get their attention more as they inspect and dissect my exterior - then we start talking. The true shock comes when I say, "Go ahead, just change everything. What’s the worst that’s going to happen?”

    A couple days ago I met up with an old school friend over an interesting project he needed consulting on. I went to his offices - shiny, new, clean, unlived (or so they seemed, inspite of the many very serious looking people sitting behind desks, who had been there for months apparently). My mouth then said smtg without my brain's control - or so it seemed, "someone should spill a can of bright paint in here". By the time we got to his office, the energy was bouncing off the walls, we had an amazing talk and mapped out a little road ahead. I could tell he kept looking around, thinking: what just happened to my comfort zone?...but I kind of like the feeling!

    When we were kids, we explored because we could. We played hard to achieve something. And we played clever to win. We changed the play when it got predictable. And we broke the rules, because we just weren't sure. And we created chaos because we were exploring. And we made a mess to get attention.

    And sometimes that's the only way to get someone to listen - to themselves, to you, to the world around them, so that they allow themselves another angle. So that they see and hear the same things in a different way, and say, “aha”!

    As I look back on my last 18 years of work, I’ve jump started organizations and programs where many said ‘impossible’. I've thrived on chaos, and those who found it difficult to deal with reached out to me. Today I like that about myself. My disruptive theory works (most of the time). The times I decided to procrastinate, the waiting turned into golden opportunities where something so new and relevant appeared and made the world of difference.

    In today’s time stealing world, we just don’t seem to let space in. And on a planet that is obsessed with rules, we’ve forgotten how to think. And in times driven by formulae, we’ve neglected to remind ourselves that humanity by nature copes with disorder. But fear is what holds some back! So perhaps it is fear that we must address rather than messy or clean desks.


    Marguerite - Feb 1, 2007 9:12 pm (# Total: 25)

    Aha! The Fear Factor

    arabianmonkey writes in part:

    When we were kids, we explored because we could. We played hard to achieve something. And we played clever to win. We changed the play when it got predictable. And we broke the rules, because we just weren't sure. And we created chaos because we were exploring. And we made a mess to get attention.

    (snip)

    In today’s time stealing world, we just don’t seem to let space in. And on a planet that is obsessed with rules, we’ve forgotten how to think. And in times driven by formulae, we’ve neglected to remind ourselves that humanity by nature copes with disorder. But fear is what holds some back! So perhaps it is fear that we must address rather than messy or clean desks.

    I love this because it points out so perfectly that before the "education system" got a hold of us, whether that be mom and dad, or the church, or school, we were so innocent -- so full of curiosity and afraid of nothing. And then after a few raps across the knuckles and other places, or a trip to one's room or the principle's office, and the innocense and curiosity get stuffed as one learns that a cluttered desk or mind is not appropriate -- everything has to be orderly. And then the withdrawal into fear begins.   

    I'm also thinking that since the Great Depression, which few of us remember, we've not been faced with any degree of adversity here on our own soil.  And especially for the middle class we've not been challenged to any degree to really think outside of the box the fear factor has created.  But for the poverty-stricken -- that's a whole nother ball game.  

    Now my mind's jumped to another subject and I'm considering how the middle and and upper classes are going to handle global climate change and the "right in your face" kind of challenges this is bringing about.  It seems to be that those who are poverty-stricken have a lot better chance of getting through this than the average American since they are use to solving problems where no answers seem apparent --and it becomes a matter at some level of consciousness of "be creative or die".      

     

      

      

     



    ClaraJ - Feb 1, 2007 9:28 pm (# Total: 25)
    Founder: Be Good, Give Goooood (tm?), Promote Good

    Thanks

    for the Donella Meadows article, esp. the one titled Dancing with Systems. There's much to ponder in her writing.

    You studied theology? No wonder... :) How fascinating about St. Francis. His "liminalism" reminds me also of his radical stance on "poverty," so radical that he advocated against financial sustainability on an organizational level. Course other mendicant orders like the Dominicans would vote otherwise, and grow much larger than the Franciscans.

    Thank you for giving me much to ponder...

    Clara


    ClaraJ - Feb 2, 2007 11:09 am (# Total: 25)
    Founder: Be Good, Give Goooood (tm?), Promote Good

    Interplay of left and right handers

    Eva Marie,

    I agree with you about the importance of interplaying with left handers... :) One of my favorite activities is interplay where you get to balance both the left and right hand..

    Anyone who wants to "dance with systems," male or female should REALLY try out interplay. What's interplay? It is "world-wide movement dedicated to ease and fullness, peace and diversity, creativity and community, development and change. It is an easy-to-learn practice, and a set of simple but powerful ideas that can change the way you live your life. It integrates body, mind, heart and spirit. It gets you running on “all your cylinders.” It creates strong, caring communities. Find out more! www.interplay.org.

    Charles, if you love meadows, you'd love interplay. One feedback to her docs is ... it'd be nice to integrate more of the body wisdom as she suggests in her title of her paper

    People on this blog stream have mentioned how messiness encourages the incorporation of spontaneity.. and how despite the messiness... being in tune with the "way of the tao" converges the messiness into a beautiful pattern.

    Try out interplay! It's a blast! You laugh and it's quite healing. It's also what I do when my brain feels fried. I let my body take the lead then over my over-analytical brain.

    And speaking of messiness and spontaneity, I'm writing this in Big Sur on a mini retreat vacation and the first page I turned to in a poetry book was this... I find it quite appropriate to post it now.. though it is deeply personal. And Eva Marie, you should listen to your instincts.. if your soul is telling you something is too personal to post on the internet, it probably is and you shouldn't - at least at this moment. Thankfully, social edge allows you to delete and edit blogs... a key feature!!! Can't change history... but sometimes, shelving history is best for all involved.

    So here's the poem I found by Carolyn Mary Kleefeld and David Wayne Dunn in the messiness of books in this library..

    Your Quiet Godliness

    In the quiet of your godliness, can you know the thrust of your spirit's flame gave me the eyes to behold, the ears to imbibe the orchestration of the tides?

    In the quiet of your godliness, can you know the pines standing so silently tall murmur from their roots into mine?

    Your quiet godliness touches me with a creature's pulse, as deeply as the songs of the whispering stream soothe my soul

    Can you know the thrust of your spirit's flame has emblazoned my senses to unknown rhapsody?

    In the quiet of your godliness can you know?

    p.s. Charles, I'm still chewing on St. Francis.. he never advocated financial sustainability.. but his radical poverty sure ignited a social movement.. could argue had longer social impact though business wise was foolish. Something to think about. Makes me think of Bill Shore's latest book... we started thinking of social enterprises, then social entreprenuers in a business integrated sense... but people like MLK sure wasn't "business" minded.. though politically savvy and he sure ignited something. Perhaps Francis never wanted and yet wanted a the same time to cannibalize his own organization. The Dominicans flourished... so did the Jesuits... and perhaps ... that was a higher will than what Francis or us in our "human finite" view could foresee.

    I wonder if the next skoll forum has a talk on integrating faith and spirituality... there's something about religion and faith that can ignite a social movement. MLK was in the end a preacher... a generational preacher... and that served him well. Even Gandhi said that "prayer when used appropriately is the most instrumental form of action." Unbusinesslike? and totally irrational.. huh?

    Clara

    Jan 10, 2007

    How do you evaluate? How do you prioritize?

    Hosted by Charles 'Hipbone' Cameron (December 2006)

    howdoyouevaluatehowdoyouprioritizePriorities

    By Charles “Hipbone” Cameron

    The very fact that you are a social entrepreneur, or specifically interested in social entrepreneurship, strongly suggests that you have prioritized: you have decided that you value “contribution to society” above simple profit.

    But prioritization is a key not just to the most basic of questions, “what shall I do with my life?” – but also to the finer details of doing it.

    How do you prioritize? Are you an instinctive “prioritizer,” for whom every self-help book ever written looks like a manual for other people, or do you have tricks and heuristics which allow you to keep your priorities straight, constantly checking and adjusting your priorities to fit the changing situation? Do you use a Covey planner, or follow David Allen’s Getting Things Done: The Art of Stress-Free Productivity?

    How do you evaluate? How do you prioritize?

    I am interested in your thoughts on this, all the way from how you handle the small details that can get lost when you have a thousand tasks to juggle and only one hand to juggle with (the other one tied behind your back by a bureaucracy, perhaps, or just by lack of time), to the Big Question: what’s the most urgent need I can hope or help to meet?

    Do you decide on a course of action based on your own perceived skill set or preferences, based on local need, an assessment of overall global need -- or was (or is) it perhaps a personal connection, story or inspiration which steered (and steers) your life in the particular direction you have chosen?

    • How do you achieve clarity?

    • How much of your decision-making is heart, and how much mind?

    • How do you prioritize?

    Jump in the conversation.


    DR.PRABIR DUTTA - Dec 12, 2006 10:19 pm (# Total: 11)
    CALCUTTA MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION

    I Prioritize

    There is nothing to prioritize to gain  immediately.I seek those to gain who need it from me.It is to be candid," a continuos process without any loss on my part".

    I make profit out of benefit yielded by my society.



    qazi - Dec 13, 2006 9:07 am (# Total: 11)

    Prioritizing is indeed a difficult art!

    Hi Charles, I first must admit that prioritizing has been and continue to be a major problem in my personal and professional life. However, I have, over the years, learned the art somewhat and here is how I try to prioritize:

    • Stephen P. Covey's 'time management matrix' in the book "7 Habits of Highly Effective People" helped me a lot to differentiate among the works that are  'important and urgent ' vs. 'important but not urgent' and so on;
    • Alan Alekin's system of priority where he recommends that the highest priority work be given an 'A', and the second highest a 'B', etc. sends a very clear signal as to one's priority. As many know, even within an 'A', there could be A1, A2, etc.
    • Recently, I am prioritizing on the basis of two criteria: First I choose paid work (consulting and training) that contributes to my long-term ambition of founding a private university meant for poor but talented people in Bangladesh. Admittedly, there aren't enough engagements of this kind to pay all my bills, sp to speak. So, my second way is to work for a certain number of days  in a week (say 3 days) which may not directly contribute to my future ambition but is good enough to pay all the biills and even save some for social work.
    • Since I was at 2006 Skoll World Forum, I am hooked onto the idea of 'social business' --the particular version which Nobel learute Prof. Yunus first talked about at the Skoll Forum and recently in his Nobel lecture at Oslo. I believe that I can contribute in this area as an adjunct business school faculty(teaching this course), Ashoka Affiliate (I encourage disadvantaged kids to go in to social business) and with a serious interest in promoting higher education as a tool for reducing poverty.

    In summary, I look for work that is related to povery reduction.Thus, when I do consulting assignments in the corporate sector, I would rather take up an assignment related to corporate social responsibility(CSR) or corporate community investment(CCI), as opposed to other mainstream topics.

    A work-in-progress website of our firm's training wing can be found at http://www.futureleaders-bd.com/ 


     



    Oliver Tessier - Dec 14, 2006 6:11 pm (# Total: 11)

    planning and structure

    I consult to many organizations at once, so I am constantly balancing multiple sets of priorities. For big projects, I identify the intended outcomes, then each step toward achieving those outcomes. I put steps on a weekly timeline (in Microsoft Project) so I have a way to measure progress, and I assign them to the responsible parties (very often myself). Then I track tasks on my daily calendar, highlighting the ones that must be completed. And I follow up to make sure all the other players are on task.

    To manage client priorities, I keep lists that tell me the status of everything we are doing. After meetings, I follow up with written "To Do" lists. "Here are the highlights of our discussion. Here's what I will do by X date; here's what you will do by X date."

    To the degree I can manage it, the prioritization happens early on, during the planning process, when I can look at the competing tasks and decide if I will have the resources to complete the tasks on time, rather than at the last minute, when decisions would have to be urgent ones. And I hold onto the prioritization by monitoring progress and maintaining dialogue with the players.

    It's not foolproof; if a CEO I'm coaching fails to deliver annual goals on time, I may have a series of meetings backed up, but I try to stay ahead of projects enough to compensate for lags like that.

    Which is not to say that I don't occasionally get stuck in a really great novel and ignore the whole lot for a morning.

    Hope that's helpful.


    tutormentor - Dec 15, 2006 7:59 am (# Total: 11)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    having a road map, or blueprint, helps

    Over the 30 years that I've been leading a volunteer-based tutor/mentor program I've begun to create a segmented understanding of each of the actions that need to happen to help a single program grow from good to great, or that would help an entire city of single programs grow from good to great.

    I have a wall in my office that shows the major categories, and some of the sub categories of actions that need to happen each year.  It stretches along about 20 feet of space, so when talking to people I ask them to think of the calvary charge in the old western movies.  It's a long line of horses with riders, and one person carrying a flag, pointing toward the enemy.

    For my organization to be successful, each horse/rider represents something that needs to happen. If I have a staff person or volunteer responsible for that action, then all I need to do is follow up to make sure they are headed in the right direction, and lead (carry the flag) to keep stretching them to do better.

    In a small organization, many roles have no one on the horse. Thus, I have to take that role. 

    What I've learned is that not every thing has to happen at the same time. Thus, I'm able to switch from one role to another at different times each day, or week, or month.  As long as I can look at the wall, and know that we're making progress toward goals, based on the time/resources we have available, then I'm confident of what we're doing.

    Another way I describe this is that my wall, or my calvary charge, is a blueprint, similar to what contractors use to build buildings.  While a calvary charge is a horizontal line, hopefully moving in one forward direction, a blueprint is a vertical stack of diagrams, and each page represents the actions of many people that must take place in the right way before the contractor can move to the next page of the construction.

    In my blueprint, the foundation, or first step, is building a database of tutor/mentor programs, and of volunteers, leaders, donors and others who are interested. If this database does not exist the city does not have an overview of where programs are operating or where they are needed.  If we don't have a list of programs and supporters, we cannot invite people to come together to build relationships, or do what's needed to help more programs be in place to help kids.

    The next step is sending invitations for people to come together, and for people to be volunteers, donors or supporters of various programs in the city.  The step after that is building a better understanding among all of the stake holders of what everyone does, and a shared understanding of some of the common needs that could be resolved if programs were working together.

    There are additional steps, but with the limited resources I have (time and money) I primarily focus on maintaining the first few steps so that I'm able to grow to the steps that follow as I get the resources to do so. 

    I look at these charts and my wall every day, and I document actions taken to achieve these goals in an OHATS section of http://www.tutormentorconnection.org.  This way I can see where I'm making progress, and where I need to spend extra time to move forward in areas where I'm not making progress.

    With this blueprint on my wall, and in my mind, I'm able to audible in any conversation I have, with anyone in the world, to connect what they do, to a role they might play, in helping me do what I do.  I do this every day in order to find volunteers, donors, or partners to be some of the sub contractors on the blueprint I've described, or riders on the horses in the calvary charge.



    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Dec 15, 2006 8:06 am (# Total: 11)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    First coemments

    Welcome, all!

    It's a funny thing, but I have the feeling that we're getting to grips with the second half, only, of the issue I was raising. We seem to be talking about how we annotate our priorities and organize ourselves around them once they're formed -- a valid and important topic, to be sure -- but not how we form those priorities, how we evaluate possibiities so as to know what priority they should have for us.

    Oliver -- greetings [ and I have a strange feeling we've crossed paths before this ]

    I note that in one of your documents, you talk about vision, mission and values as though mission needs to be aligned with vision, and values with (vision and) mission -- you may be speaking here of another kind of "value" to the sort I'm thinking of, but my question here is about the vlaues that allow you to form a vision.

    How, in a world of multiple needs and tensions, as a human with multiple needs and tensions, do you chose what is most significant to you? In those "moments of scanning my whole life"?

    I'd love it if we could add a little of this side of the equation -- call it "how do you evaluate" as opposed to "how do you prioritize" -- into the mix here...

    Dan:

    How did tutoring / mentoring come to have such primacy in your life?


    tutormentor - Dec 15, 2006 10:13 am (# Total: 11)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Tutor/mentor - a 40 year journey

    Charles, I went to college in the 60s and thus the Civil Rights movement and the War in Viet Nam were part of my learning. I studied history in college, so learned to look at what happend at one time and in one place, and apply that thinking to what is happening, or could happen in current times and where I live. Then I spent three years in the Army, in the Intelligence Corps. I learned to collect information from different sectors, rate it, and use it to solve problems.

    In 1973 I became an Advertising copywriter at the Wards HQ in Chicago, and shortly thereafter, a volunteer tutor meeting weekly with a 4th grade boy. In 1975 I became the leader of the tutor/mentor program, and by 1981 I was responsible for the creative development of all Ward national advertising and for developing the annual ad calender.

    I had no knowledge of running a tutor/mentor program, or of being a mentor when I joined this program, and I had no knowledge of advertising when I joined Wards.

    However, my background prepared me to learn from what others were doing and to apply that to innovating ways to get better at what I was doing. I was lucky to have some great mentors, and be inspired by some great ideas.

    In each of my jobs I worked on the same calendar of activites each year. Thus each year as I repeated what I did the previous year, I learned more about what I was doing, and with this experience, I could innovate more ways to do it better.

    By 1990 I had 17 years experience in both careers, and my understanding of what needs to be done to connect tutors and mentors in one organization, or many organizations, had grown to a passion.

    I was given the opportunity to leave Wards, and I converted the original tutor/mentor program to a non profit so I could earn a living doing what I had a passion to do. Not many people are so fortunate.

    Over the last 16 years I've added to what I learned from the first 17 years, but I've been able to devote 60 to 70 hours a week to what I'm learning, and I've been able to use the Internet to expand my network of who I was learning from.

    Thus, my current passion and sense of purpose comes from a lifetime of involvement.

    This is exactly what I'm trying to duplicate in my leadership of the Tutor/Mentor Connection. If we can get more business people involved in more places, and keep them involved for a lifetime, teach them to learn from what they do, and what others do, and teach them to apply this learning every day to leadership that helps kids in poverty get the support the need to move to jobs and carers, we'll create hundreds of leaders with the same sense of purpose, but with a variety of skills and networks that I don't have.


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Dec 18, 2006 10:10 am (# Total: 11)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Here's my hunch

    Thanks, Dan -- wonderful story!



  • I'm really surprised (and a little saddened) that this item hasn't taken off, and I have a hunch as to why that might be -- which I'll post here on the off-chance that it triggers renewed interest.

    The question we're tooking at here -- setting priorities -- is really in two parts:
      how do you know what you really value and what choices to make, and
      how do you organize your day / week / month to be effective?
    Here's my guess...

    The second question may seem so obvious or trivial that many of us can't quite be bothered to answer it -- "I use a daytimer, of course", or "I make lists" just doesn't seem lkike something worth saying in a world that's already overflowing with time-management self-help titles and so on.

    And the answer to the first question -- how to we value, how do we really come to understand what's important to us, and align our lives with that understanding -- may itself be more a matter of intuition and instinct than a rational process that can be easily put into words.

    That's my hunch, anyway -- that the way we come by our primary oprientation and values in life may be somehow too organic an internal process for easy explanation...

    Any comments? I'd love to know why this event has been so quiet, and what's really going on "behind the scenes"...


  • Pamela McLean - Dec 18, 2006 12:51 pm (# Total: 11)

    Charles wondered why it's quiet here.....

    Maybe others feel a bit like me on this one:

    Ref question one: how do you know what you really value and what choices to make,

    That's a deep question - would take much too long to answer....

    Ref Question two how do you organize your day / week / month to be effective?

    Personally I've nothing helpful to share there - in a word - "Badly"


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Dec 19, 2006 5:56 pm (# Total: 11)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re; [Pam] Charles wondered why it's quiet here.....

    We'e on the front page for another week!



  • Regarding question 1: how do you know what you really value and what choices to make, Pam writes:
      That's a deep question - would take much too long to answer....
    Maybe that's a good sign, maybe that's an indicator that we're touching on something profound (rather than something so irrelevant it's easiest and best just to ignore it). Let's take a stab at it. If three of you will attempt to answer this question, I'll give my own answer, too.


  • DR.PRABIR DUTTA - Dec 20, 2006 3:42 am (# Total: 11)
    CALCUTTA MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION

    gsbi2007@scu.edu

    Attached my biodata in short.

    Attachments:

    biodata.doc (35 KB)



    tutormentor - Dec 20, 2006 2:27 pm (# Total: 11)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Art, not science

    Charles, I'll give this a go.

    What I really value, is related to what I'm trying to accomplish, and what needs to be done every day to move toward the goal. I'd like to be working with lists and weighted priorities, but in a small organization, this is more art than science. I described my "blueprint" and "calvary charge". These are all visualizations of the many different actions and tasks that all need action in order to be successful. However, they don't all need action every day, nor could I possibly give each my attention every day.

    Thus, I prioritize by what needs attention most, based on what it is, and what value it is to the organization. This is subjective, based on my own understanding of the goals, and the importance of one action vs another.

    I think the most important thing I could pass on to others is that without a clear goal/vision in mind, and without being able to segment achieving this goal into groupings of activties that need to repeat over many days, months or  years, then sub groupings, it's not possible to sort through all of the choices each day to determine which needs attention.

    It's also not possible to recruit others to help you by taking on one or more of these actions as their own responsibility.

    Social Edge Survey: Results and Consequences

    Hosted by Victor d'Allant, Executive Director of Social Edge (January 2007 - Closed)

    Victor d’Allant, Executive Director of Social Edge, shares the results of the audience survey and introduces you to the new Social Edge.

    To coincide with my first year at the helm of Social Edge, I hired Mission Minded, a San Francisco based research firm, to conduct a survey and better understand our audience –you.

    Back in September, some of you received a survey to help us understand how the Social Edge community felt the site served them: purely as inspiration or as a robust source of practical information? As community-builder or as a possible source of funding? We also wondered what changes Social Edge could reasonably make that would better serve our audience.

    The results recently came in, and I am eager to share them with you –whether you already participated in the survey or would like to take this opportunity to share your opinion.

    When I joined Social Edge, I thought that our online platform should become “the practical global network for social entrepreneurs.” I am proud to report that these goals, in large part, have been achieved.

    • Our audience is definitely global, with only 47% of active users coming from North America (we are physically located in California but global in scope). Approximately 22% log in from Asia, 16% from Africa and 7% from Europe. You are global citizens, and we all gather on Social Edge!

    • Most of you are leading (35%) and emerging (14%) social entrepreneurs. An additional 13% are staff members of social benefit enterprises, for a total of 62%. The remaining are consultants (11%), academic and students (8%), and 3% come from the funding community. There is no doubt that Social Edge is the online platform for social entrepreneurs and professionals in the field.

    • You seek inspiration as well as practical “how-to” tools. Overall, you tend to prefer content from experts above content from fellow members. This is why I established from the beginning of my tenure at Social Edge a strong top-down editorial voice for the site, bringing in experts as the primary source of content.

    • But Social Edge is also an online community. Member-to-member communication and interactivity are important to you. Mission Minded discovered that Social Edge users were more active than the average online community based on usability expert Jakob Nielsen’s findings: “In most online communities, 90% of members are lurkers who never contribute, 9% of members contribute a little and 1% of members account for almost all the action.” On Social Edge, 34% forward content and links to others, and 17% post comments!

    Questions for the Social Edge community:

    • Do you agree with these findings?

    • Did we miss any important point?

    • As we are about to relaunch on a new platform, what you would like to see on Social Edge 2.0?




    surya prakash.Vinjamuri - Jan 9, 2007 7:34 pm (# Total: 13)
    Life-Health Reinforcement Group

    HAPPY NEW YEAR

    Dear Victor,

    Greetings from Life-HRG!

    Immediate responses to your Q's.

    1. Do you agree with these findings?

    Have to carefully see the findings, which you have shared in gist.

    2. Did we miss any important point?

    Deffinetly we have do some homework for this.

    3. As we are about to relaunch on a new platform, what you would like to see on Social Edge 2.0?

    I love to see more new energy pumped in.

    Waiting for the launch as early as possible.

    Have wonderful feedback session.

    -surya.


     

     



    Victor - Jan 10, 2007 10:55 am (# Total: 13)

    Interactive Portal

    I am often asked whether Social Edge is a portal or an online community. My answer: both! We are a hybrid between a portal with mostly static content (like most traditional media with an online presence) and a typical online community with mostly user-generated content (like YouTube, MySpace, FaceBook, Flickr). In fact, Social Edge is an interactive portal.


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Jan 10, 2007 10:58 am (# Total: 13)

    nice work, Victor

    These data will help all of us who publish events on the site fine tune it for our audience, especially as you launch the new platform and the podcasts. Well done!


    Victor - Jan 10, 2007 12:18 pm (# Total: 13)

    Podcasts on Social Edge?

    Oui! Patrick is currently interviewing Peace Corps returned volunteers who have become social entrepreneurs. I just listend to the first one, Molly Melcher, Director of Tostan in Dakar, Senegal. Wonderful!

    As we relaunch Social Edge, we will post this great series of podcasts. Stay tuned!


    Benjamin Litalien - Jan 11, 2007 5:31 am (# Total: 13)
    President & CEO, Social Franchise Ventures, LLC

    Lessons Learned...

    Victor, congrats on running one of the most robust blogs on the web! As I review the threads there are many nuggets of value to be gleaned and I wonder if there is a way to simplfy the process. For example, when a session has been completed it might be good to have the author/sponsor provide a recap, highlight learnings and generally summarize the responses. As others research past sessions it would provide a quick guide to the content without the need to review every response.

    Also, as an organization it would be interesting if you were able to pick some of the most intriguing information that is posted and share that with the broader audience or even the social enterprise community at large.

    I don't think there is a more thorough, diverse and insightful collection of inputs for social entreprenuers than you've amassed on the SocialEdge!


    Victor - Jan 11, 2007 9:46 am (# Total: 13)

    Information Sharing?

    Benjamin is right --we should be able to find a better way to share information relevant to social entrepreneurs. One of the new features we will introduce on Social Edge 2.0 (as we call it internally) is the Edge Wiki. A wiki? Yes, as in Wikipedia. It will be the first open source online encyclopedia about social entrepreneurship. Registered Social Edge members will be able to edit the entries and even create new ones.


    tutormentor - Jan 11, 2007 1:12 pm (# Total: 13)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Spider and the Starfish

    It's coincidence that the book Spider and the Starfish has just been released at the same time as you are upgrading Social Edge. I've just finished reading the book and am inspired about the role of catalysts (many on Social Edge) and the potential sites like this have to create distributed ownership of important issues.

    However, I don't think this will happen as rapidly as it could be if the mix of donors/foundations remains at 3% of the total.

    In a recent discussion at http://www.gifthub.org/giving_as_field_of_practice/index.html Phil and friends talked about "getting the right people together". I think this is something that should also be part of the Social Edge vision.

    We can share great ideas and learn from each other, but unless we're introducing each other to the resources we need to put great ideas to work in more places, we're not capaitalizing on the potential of Social Edge as a catalyst for change.

    I don't think this is just the responsibility of Victor and the Skoll Foundation. In a Starfish network, this responsibility is shared.

    At the end of next year what would it take to have the mix of donors/investors be 25-30%?


    tutormentor - Jan 12, 2007 2:24 pm (# Total: 13)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Connecting those who can help with those who need help

    I created a web page to show a chart that I created about 10 years ago, showing how leaders, catalysts, etc. can draw the people they know into volunteer-based t utor/mentor programs throughout a geographic area, and how such people can create on-line forums like Social Edge to share ideas, collaborate, etc.  The link is http://www.tutormentorexchange.net/Partner/CC/Presentations/Leaders/pictures_history.htm

    This illustrates a role I feel the sponsors of forums like Social Edge can talk.  When I was asked why they should take this role, I said, "To whom much is given, much is expected."  Forums like Social Edge, Omidyar, and the Ohrah Winfrey Angel Network attract thousands of visitors because of the celebrity/influence of the host.

    Thus, those who have been blessed to have such a position in life, have the responsibility of connecting all of the right people with each other so that more good can come from the networking that is done.



    Victor - Jan 12, 2007 8:24 pm (# Total: 13)

    A mix of donors/investors of 25-30%?

    Social Edge currently attracts over 20,000 unique visitors per month (compared with 7,500 a year ago). How realistic is it to try to attract 6,000 from the donor community? Are there that many program officers in the first place?

    Our mission is to give social entrepreneurs tools to be more effective in their work, which in turn should help them attract the right kind of resources.


    tutormentor - Jan 14, 2007 9:24 am (# Total: 13)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Why not try?

    If we think of a donor/investor as more than a program officer at a foundation, then there are man more than 6,000 of these people in the world. IF Social Edge is to remain THE leader in drawing social enterpreneurs together, and in helping them be more effective in their work, it would be important to try to grow the percent total of investors.

    Otherwise, someone else will fill this role and many of those who spend time here will choose to spend that time elsewhere.


    Victor - Jan 16, 2007 4:38 pm (# Total: 13)

    Diverse and insightful collection of inputs for social entrepreneurs

    Benjamin writes that there may not be a source with "a more thorough, diverse and insightful collection of inputs for social entrepreneurs" on the Internet. Thank you.

    Ironically, that's also the challenge we are facing as we are designing the new Social Edge --how do we make sense of so much material?

    One of the key features will be a Resources Wiki --a content database that can be searched, that willbe easy to read and, for those who dare, easy to edit!


    ClaraJ - Jan 17, 2007 1:49 pm (# Total: 13)
    Founder: Be Good, Give Goooood (tm?), Promote Good

    Synchronicity of Grace

    LOVE the wikipedia feature! I just wrote a blog to hipbone and wanted to reference other blogger's "words" so I kept putting them in (). This is watercourse way operating, exactly what Charles was talking about. Great job!

    As for donor/investor mix, I tend to agree with tutormentor... isn't it true that only 15-20% of funding come from foundations - thus program officers - and >70% come from individual donors? It'd be great to have social edge attract them... there's a lot of them out there. When I introduced myself as a donor to a npo - their first reaction was "great! less paperwork!" I think there's a lot of potential there...

    p.s. however pls don't inundate me with grant proposals... there's only so much I can do....

    p.p.s. would love to see a global translator on social edge as a utility. if we are global...shouldn't we converse in global languages? n'est-ce pas? guruchi... aigoo.. per favore... hasta luego!

    Clara


    Victor - Jan 18, 2007 7:20 pm (# Total: 13)

    A global translator?

    Bien sûr, Carla, c'est une très bonne idée. Es realmente una idea muy buena .

    But the technology is not there yet. Online translation services can produce a good first draft, but not a decent translation --certainly not good enough for Social Edge.

    As an example, I tried to translate a French sentence (Les logiciels de traduction ne sont pas encore au point) and this is what I got in return: "The software of translation is not yet at the point." Not good enough.

    We would love to launch Social Edge in other languages. Maybe Social Edge 3.0?

    Nov 30, 2006

    A Network of Purpose

    Hosted by Charles Cameron (November 2006 - Closed)

    networkpurposeWhat’s the magic ingredient that turns a powerful digital resource, like the Social Edge website, into a vibrant community of friends, meeting and networking through a powerful digital resource and community space like, well, Social Edge?


    Charles "Hipbone" Cameron says that this place is already a terrific resource. When we need information, we come here to find it. When we have a question, we leave it here because we know that a bunch of others will read it. It’s like the reference desk at a library, informative, rich, detailed.

    But it’s not yet a rich tapestry of people, we don’t know each other much better than any two patrons in the same large library. Oh, we may recognize the gentleman over there with the Fedora hat as a regular, perhaps we overheard him talking to the librarian once and liked his voice – but we haven’t sat down for coffee together, haven’t seen the photos of each others’ kids.

    This place, in other words, hasn’t yet built much in the way of bonds of connection and community between individuals. And so we don’t come here to be in our virtual home, so much as we come here to ask questions or retrieve information. We are not yet a “full-service” library: thus far, we are more of a resource than a community, more of a place to visit than a family to connect with.

    How can we get to know one another better?

    How can we maximize our group potential?

    Recognizing one another, feeling kinship, coming back often enough to notice the odd request for help or mention of a solution and, yes, make the connection that’s more than just words, or ideas even -- it’s a network in action, a college of the inspirational and the inspired, meeting, questioning, responding, acting, collaborating, thanking. A network of purpose?

    A network of purpose -- for which the Web is a trial run and launching pad. A Web extending not just into our needs but into our lives and hearts.

    How do we manage that?

    Charles volunteers: "I’ll throw in the bright thoughts and even brighter questions that my networks propose, if you’ll throw in yours. Let's talk."

    Let’s rock the box, the boat, the world.

     


     

    Pamela McLean - Nov 20, 2006 5:39 pm (# Total: 66)

    Networks and purpose

    Count me in too please. 

    One of the ways I describe myself is "Cawdnet convenor" - where Cawdnet is the network of people I exchange ideas with and collaborate with in various ways. The name comes from CAWD - which originally stood for the Committee for African Welfare and Development. It now stands for a registered charity.

    CAWD was started by my friend the late Peter Adetunji Oyawale. I "got into all this" in the first place by helping him to write letters, make phone calls and such like - regarding the community development project that he wanted to start back home. He needed help because here in the UK his "African English" was a bit of a communication barrier.

    Subsequently I've tackled all kinds of communication barriers (cultural, ICT, infrastructure challenges, etc) as I have continued working on CAWD related projects in rural Nigeria. I want to bring together the networks on the Internet and the networks in rural Nigeria, for purposes of education, friendship, understanding, collaboration, philanthropy, investment, and all aspects of development.

    Another network that is important to me is one started by Andrius Kulikauskas. To oversimplify - Andrius has set up a network of networks on the Internet which he weaves together in interesting ways. (If I am lucky then someone else in his network will see this mention and add details before I have time to return to write more.).

    Pam

     

     


    Jeff.Mowatt - Nov 21, 2006 5:05 pm (# Total: 66)
    P-CED

    Charles, Pamela, this comes at a moment when I as another Brit have just been reflecting on how much better this socially enabling kind of network is done in the US. To be specific it comes at the moment that I'd just read the recently published Action Plan for Social Enterprise, which although it documents many interesting developments, only serves to highlight how distanced we are, with a plethora of subscription based networks offering no major vehicle for discussion. To speak plainly, to me what I've read today seems more a promotional manifesto for a change of leadership in UK government. To some extent, I feel used by it, knowing much of what it prescribes is based upon the voluntary efforts many of us have pioneered and promoted at no personal gain.

    Here then, as you say Charles, we have begun and I apologise Pamela for not knowing anything about CAWD, but I have to say that what I see and engage with on Omidyar.net has the edge for several reasons.

    First it's unscripted, allowing free flow and expression of ideas and to some degree provides the facility for collaborative decision making in small funding exercises and what it doesn't do, is route discussions away to disconnected blogs. As a result there are in the order of 16,000 members able to express themselves freely and cross reference conversations easily. It isn't perfect, the hierachy of topics is a disordered mess and the peculiar formatting language it uses it plain awful.

    A network of networks then? If it's at all possible to achieve this kind of connectivity with so many different formats in play.

    In the wider context,there's the question of language and accessibilty, knowing as I do that content rich web forums can often exclude those that might well wish to contribute in the developing world but are excluded from doing so, if not by language, by the limits of bandwidth and cost if indeed they have access at all.

    Jeff

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    tutormentor - Nov 21, 2006 7:28 pm (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Creating a Network of Purpose: The Tutor/Mentor Connection story

    In May I hosted a discussion on Social Edge titled Creating a Network of Purpose. The link to that discussion is at tutormentor, "Creating Networks Of Purpose" #16, 9 May 2006 10:45 am

    Charles I'm glad you've started this again. Since hosting the discussion in May I've continued to work toward creating a network that would help create the resources that volunteer based tutor/mentor programs need to operate. I'm please to say that last week we had a major breakthrough when the Chicago Sun Times donated $2 million to the Lend A Hand Program at the Chicago Bar Association, which will use this money to make grants over the next 3-5 years to tutor/mentor programs in Chicago.

    I've participated in Social Edge, Omidyar.net and many other forums with a goal of recruiting others who would take a role in building a network of purpose focused on tutor/mentor programs in many cities, or who would see they work as a contribution toward borrowing the process of the T/MC to create a network of purpose focused on other social issues, in Chicago, or elsewhere in the world.

    I encourage everyone to review the May discussion, and I look forward to what new ideas can come forward now. I encourage everyone to think of this as a step on a journey. It took us 13 years to get the first major donation toward Chicago tutor/mentor programs. I hope it does not take as long to get a second, or a third.

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Nov 21, 2006 8:26 pm (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    quick drive-by post

    I'm still mulling the three fine messages we've received so far. Pam, yours was posted before I'd even completed the final draft of my intro post! Jeff, you've lots to say and I'll need a morning to tink it through and respond even a bit... and Dan, you already know you're an inspiration, and I borrowed your title shamelessly. Thank you on both accounts, and I'm happy you came by already.

    Tomorrow I want to post (a) some references to resources and (b) fuller responses to the three of you.

    And a warm welcome to all who follow.

     


    surya prakash.Vinjamuri - Nov 21, 2006 8:28 pm (# Total: 66)
    Life-Health Reinforcement Group

    In the name of development

    Here in our our city of hyderabad what is happening is we are working towards forgetting that we are human beings.

    We were a peaceful city & say large happy family till 1980's - systematically life is now is understood holding a cell phone,riding bikes & cars on a busy road with few flyovers built to ease the traffic & few on the way of completion - roads widened or getting widened by destroying memories of - particular tea stall or paper store or vegetable points.

    In the midst of all these lands are taken over ( which otherwise fertile) replaced by concrete structures for a price - where the vegetables growing or rice/wheat will not yield the price what they got - a life time yield.

    Friends, life is no more understood as an opportunity given to survive & serve & to see that generation ahead enjoys what we are able to, today.

    Lot's of insecure acts causing the damage and needed intervention today is withhold what is good, reinforce habits & lifestyle which would protect tomorrow.

    Values we uphold which we imbibed by our elders & the family we represent & the teachers & books, will be the foundation for better tomorrow.

    I just want to end the opening note of my this posting with this observation: "the colors we see, when we look up at the sky are never harsh - all pleasant colors, no harshness at all".

    I wish we take the inspiration from nature to be natural,gentle & human.

     


    Laurinda - Nov 21, 2006 8:30 pm (# Total: 66)

    Networking: Multi purpose?

    Hi to you all.

    It is interesting that this topic has come up again! ... at Empowerment Gateway we are currently looking how can we facilitate access to netwoks and knowledge resources in South Africa. It is one of the projects that has been tabled for development in the new year.

    Like Jeff, I use Social Edge and Omydiar as two of my many networking platforms. ... but recently we have been evaluating how could a network of networks be created? ... and we are seriously evaluating if an IT platform like ManyOne could be the answer for us with the creation of an Empowerment Gateway portal in South Africa linking to the rest of Africa.

    Additionally our membership in numerous CUG's on Yahoo has also enabled us to broaden our own network. Today all the groups that we are networked to provides instant access to over 200 000 individuals worldwide. I have an advantage over most english speakers as english is my 3rd language ... with portuguese and french as principal languages.

    The pronblem is mainly financial resources to support a more effective communication platform. In South Africa the cost of broadband is prohibitive in comparasion to the cost in the USA for example ... we are paying 50c a meg versus 50c a gig. ... and I am not mentioning the rest of Africa ...

    As we evaluate and research this topic in the months ahead if you are interested I'll give feedback on what is happening. Regarding ideas on how to improve this process ... I am afraid that I don't have answers YET! ....

    Laurinda

     

     

     

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Nov 22, 2006 12:00 am (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    again, briefly, more tomorrow

    There are two keys here, I think. One has to do with software choice, and is far subtler and more important than management in general expects. The other has to do with patterns of visiting and posting on a website.

    But that's just dipping my big toe in, much more to explore... What's your idea? What's your pratice?

     


    Jeff.Mowatt - Nov 22, 2006 2:02 am (# Total: 66)
    P-CED

    Not my idea

    Charles, With regard to your last question and the general subject of social purpose connectivity. A decade ago, an ordinary man outside the mainstream establishment pitched an idea to a President. He'd asserted that the new class of information impoverished would replace those currently impoverished as the result of the Industrial Age and that there was a way this could be avoided, by changing the way we look at business. He didn't write a book about it, but seized an opportunity to put it into practice, drawing on the tools pioneered by M.Yunus to deliver proof of concept starting with $6m to empower several thousand families, paid back in full over 5 years.

    Hopefully, before the end of this year members your Senate Foreign Relations Committee will take delivery of another document descibing how the same approach can be scaled up to a whole nation at a net cost of zero. Among other things, it will detail how 5 million new subscribers can be delivered affordable access. The message remains unchanged, in order for new enterprise to flourish it must have access to an affordable source of information to gather intelligence on locally available resources and access its target markets.

    In all this time, he's remained in relative obscurity, experiencing periods of homelessness and exclusion, and yet in recent times, these ideas have bounced back. Unsurprisingly, I don't need a UK Chancellor to tell me he wants us to think about new ways of doing business, though I might now want him to think about new ways of doing politics.

    For all the networking we may muster and all the ideas we may brainstorm, it counts for little if government remains unapproachable. I have no access to the cross-party parliamentary groups on Microfinance and Social Enterprise, nor any constructive response from a government department on Social Enterprise. I am in fact at odds with one of the supporting government departments who've enabled a competitor to drive me out of business.

    This I know is straying from the topic, but what I fear most is that what we've striven for will be served back at us as a watered down placebo, serving only the career interests of the new opportunists.

    That being said, I'd certainly like to explore the feasibility of expanding dialogue to be more inclusive. feeling that we need to speak in plainer language and languages to get across the social purpose message. In essence, very simple, to ensure personal survival think less about climbing to the top of the pile and more about how those we clamber over in the process determine what we must face in our future.

     


    edward - Nov 22, 2006 4:21 am (# Total: 66)
    self

    Recognising the Limitations and building on the positives

    Charles it’s excellent that this topic has been revived. My starting suggestion is that we be precise and sure about the possibilities and limitations of a virtual community such as we have in Social Edge. This would then enable us to identify how and when to extend or draw out related ideas and activities to be developed in other ways. This could even be through other virtual communities subordinate to a central one on Social Edge.

     

    One possibility is that we have a segmented series or hierarchy of ‘spaces’ within Social Edge. This would mean that a general discussion could be kicked off at the broadest level. Then those posters most interested (and with most to offer!) could ‘commit’ themselves to a more intensive and interactive series of exchanges and collateral dealings by joining or forming a sub-forum specific to the topic in hand. Posters would be expected to demonstrate some sort of commitment – perhaps by submitting more detail of themselves and/or their organisation or accepting the need to re-register for the sub-forum. It would be important for posters to the sub-forum to be able to demonstrate what their practical interest in the topic is, and what they specifically need to learn or can offer.

     

    A significant drawback with web-based forums is that they tend to be (rightly) open-access and very generic, at least to start with. This can mean they tend to become much taken up by folks who have only a very generalised interest in a topic, but who nevertheless are prone to join in any discussion on any topic. This tendency can reduce the value and effectiveness of the forum for those who have a real ‘need-to-know’ or who have practical knowledge or experience to usefully exchange with other like-minded people.

     

    In my own work in delivering real-life Open Forums on Community Regeneration around Scotland, I find that the personal or individual touch is essential. Even in these real-life situations where ‘real’ people gather together there need to be some encouragement or facilitation for person-to-person interaction to get going. It can be something as simple as going up and welcoming someone you see standing on their own and introducing them to someone else.

     

    As you see I’m a pragmatist in these things. To work effectively, forums and networks need to offer a practical purpose, ideally with the furtherance of learning and development. We do not yet have the technology to bring about meaningful personal interaction through websites. So we need to recognise this limitation in order that we can work on the positives and develop the benefits.

     

    The major problems with what I’m suggesting is that it might simply reduce the number of participants to any discussion – and Social Edge users might worry that it smacks of a lessening of accessibility?

     

    One other practical suggestion then; we could make even more use Social Edge to better involve ourselves as to what ‘real-time’ events will be taking place in the medium to longer term future around the world and that involve our own organisations and communities. This would offer possibilities of Social edge posters being able to link up with one another and realising scope for meeting up ‘real-time’ at these events. Each of us could even undertake to let Social Edge have early-knowledge of any events of activities in the longer-term future that our organisations or communities will be engaged on.

     


    tutormentor - Nov 22, 2006 5:48 am (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Social Edge as a connector, not the main meeting place

    In a huge world with many important issues, and many locations where these problems persist, I think it's unrealistic to try to create any single portal to create networks of purpose focused at doing significant work and collaboration in any of these issue areas. I feel that portals like Social Edge and Omidyar should be entry points and connectors, pointing people to other locations where more intense discussions can take place.

    I've often pointed to the Boston Innovation Hub as an ideal model of an entry point. Here's the link: http://www.tbf.org/indicatorsproject/hubofinnovation/innovation.asp

    The hub is a pie chart and each slice represents an issue important to Boston. When you click a slice, you go to another page where the information relates just to that issue.

    In the model I recommend, a pie chart like this on Social Edge would enable people interested in the environment to click that slice of the pie, and they'd go to another chart, which would be a map of the world, showing where environmental issues are most severe, along with another pie chart, that would segment environmental issues into sub sections, such as water, global warming, etc. A click into one of these would take you deeper into that topic, and again you'd be able to choose what part of the world you want to go to join the discussion.

    Each of these different clicks might take the visitor to a new web site hosted by a different group of people. For instance, while I focus on Tutoring/Mentoring in Chicago, our friend from South Africa might host a parallel portal, focusing on Tutoring/Mentoring in Africa, and someone else might host one focused on London or Sydney.

    We each could meet and share ideas in the "global" portal for tutor/mentor, or could go into the sub sections hosted by each partner, just as we come into Social Edge to share ideas.

    The theory behind what I'm saying is that I believe the glue that brings people together is the passion of a few people to solve a clearly defined problem. I've been leading tutoring/mentoring in Chicago for more than 30 years. Thus, I've a clear vision and a strong commitment. That enables me to stay involved, even when I have to pay the bills from my own bank account.

    I don't think any high level gathering at Social Edge has that type of commitment, or that type of depth of experience, toward any single goal. Yet, Social Edge has huge visibility that could draw new blood, and new resources to the portal, and then point them to a cause that is being led by someone else who has introduced themselves, just as I do.

    By giving recognition at high levels to the work done on on the local community level, Social Edge can encourage people to get involved. If it leads to higher visibility and more traffic at Social Edge, we may finally get some donors, business leaders, celebrities and even elected people to come into this portal, and then on to specific issue areas where they can learn and become personally involved.

    While I share these ideas in Social Edge and Omidyar.net and other places, I also try to make them a reality from my own site. Thus, as you visit http://www.tutormentorconnection.org from time to time you'll see progress toward a goal of connecting Chicago with major cities around the world in a network of purpose.

    I think that as others at the local level work from their base to create this world wide network, we can innovate ideas that help each other, and that feed into larger connecting points like Social Edge. In this way we will learn from each other's innovations, and learn to help each other to find the resources needed to put innovation into action.

     


    Pamela McLean - Nov 22, 2006 2:37 pm (# Total: 66)

    Charles' two keys

    Charles wrote "There are two keys here, I think. One has to do with software choice, and is far subtler and more important than management in general expects. The other has to do with patterns of visiting and posting on a website."

    A reply to mention some relevant points. Can't explain fully now.

    Appropriate delivery mechanisms are so important - and can make the difference between inclusion/exclusion in the group. Careful analysis of what information should be pushed and what pulled is one of the issues that need consideration, especially if people have little Internet access.

    In Cawdnet we use the descriptions "bandwidth rich" "bandwidth challenged" "bandwidth poor" as shorthand to describe our current situation regarding Internet access. It helps people within the network to appreciate each other’s circumstances. At home I'm bandwidth rich, When I visit my friends in Nigeria I am either "bandwidth challenged" or "bandwidth poor" - depending who I am with (and sometimes it is more like "bandwidth starved")

    In the Cawdnet community, as we work together, we try to understand each other and be considerate. This is quite a challenge sometimes given our varied cultural backgrounds. Part of this consideration is to pace our information communication expectations appropriately. For instance, one of our group members can only travel to the city once a month to access her email. Others expect rapid exchange of info. Amongst the bandwidth rich there is usually a preference to be kept in the loop. For the bandwidth poor being "kept in the loop" can be counter-productive - too many emails makes it impossible to find the ones that really matter.

    When the bandwidth poor come online they need to be able to grab essential information quickly and easily. We sometimes describe this as the bandwidth rich having access to an info supermarket 24/7 while the bandwidth poor can only dash in when they are really hungry and quickly grab whatever is on the nearest shelf.

    Since I got involved with CAWD most of my effort has been directed to exploring how people like me (bandwidth rich) can be helpful to people like my bandwidth challenged and bandwidth poor friends and wider network in Nigeria and beyond. I want to find the best ways to ensure that when they do get to the Internet they find what they need, ready waiting on the nearest shelf of their personal information cupboards. I also want them, as far as possible, to be included in any relevant discussions that the bandwidth rich are having. This provides all kinds of information communication and management challenges - and has defined the development of my personal "network of purpose" - a network which I hope will be networking with the SocialEdge "network of purpose" wherever there are overlapping interests.

     


    chrismacrae - Nov 22, 2006 5:09 pm (# Total: 66)

    travel guides to world change

     our network aims to make travel guides to world change as popular as a local publications as hotel guides or sports leagues were in the 20th century

     for 23 years now we have forecast that certain sustainability crises will be irreversible by about 2015 unless entrepreneurial citizen networks get connected up from the grassroots in ways that neither global corporations nor national governments can by themselves

    some ideas on how to do this are here a b  c but the fun is seeing which city group will take the lead on which crisis and how we can vote around the world for those change projects we trust most for their practicality, replicability, urgency

    if at a time when the UK government publishes the Stern report that we are so far down the vicious spiral of climate that we need to invest 1% of GDP to save 20% people all around the net cannot take another look at other spirals that have not been addressed locally with urgent worldwide attention ,then we may well have missed the last call to use social networks to value sustainability.

     Sustainability crises are rooted in compound future consequences and it is clear that the maths that values corporations and governments still (6 years after Brookings and Georgetown first released unseen wealth research) systematically excludes compound future integrity, which is why the people will have to take the lead in reorgansing systematically

    chris.macrae@yahoo.co.uk

     

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    surya prakash.Vinjamuri - Nov 22, 2006 7:42 pm (# Total: 66)
    Life-Health Reinforcement Group

    Being online & in line

    In my previuos post I just posted what is happening in my city & my expectation how we should keep getting inspired by nature.

    I eagerly waited for response & then I see people crossing my post & continue dialogue with charles - I said to myself, surya you are no ghost - Iam with my all sweat & blood physically present while posting - then I checked again what charles said in his openeing remark -

     " How can we get to know one another better?

    How can we maximize our group potential?

    Recognizing one another, feeling kinship, coming back often enough to notice the odd request for help or mention of a solution and, yes, make the connection that’s more than just words, or ideas even -- it’s a network in action, a college of the inspirational and the inspired, meeting, questioning, responding, acting, collaborating, thanking. A network of purpose?????????????????":

    I would have just appreciated my limitation of understanding this event or give me space to warm up - I see lot's of seniors with tons & tons of knowledge or keying their knowkedge, while a person with limited knowledge like me is trying to understand and trying to explain the context I am representing.

    If network of purpose has to evolve into be more human or say we like to bring in life to beautiful world of connectivity for promotion of larger good, we need to be higly inclusive & process oriented.

    My words if they are making any 'sense' do respond beforing jumping over my post.

    -surya.

     


    Jeff.Mowatt - Nov 22, 2006 11:13 pm (# Total: 66)
    P-CED

    Online and in line with Nature

    Surya,

    Let me apologise for not being social. It reminds me of my first and only encounter with an nntp newsgroup called Social Enterprise, where I introduced myself enthusiastically and have waited since,

    A lot of what I read goes right over my head, it is far too learned and complex for me, or for me to relate to others.

    Inspired by nature, certainly. Reminding ne that long before our time two poets collaborated in a kind of opensource way by publishing a collection which omitted their names from the title page. Wordsworth and Coleridge wanted to promote a new kind of poetry understandable by all.

    From within, Here is part of something you may enjoy:

    For I have learned

    To look on nature, not as in the hour

    Of thoughtless youth; but hearing oftentimes

    The still, sad music of humanity,

    Nor harsh nor grating, though of ample power

    To chasten and subdue. And I have felt

    A presence that disturbs me with the joy

    Of elevated thoughts; a sense sublime

    Of something far more deeply interfused,

    Whose dwelling is the light of setting suns,

    And the round ocean and the living air,

    And the blue sky, and in the mind of man;

    A motion and a spirit, that impels

    All thinking things, all objects of all thought,

    And rolls through all things. Therefore am I still

    A lover of the meadows and the woods,

    And mountains; and of all that we behold

    From this green earth; of all the mighty world

    Of eye, and ear,--both what they half create,

    And what perceive; well pleased to recognise

    In nature and the language of the sense,

    The anchor of my purest thoughts, the nurse,

    The guide, the guardian of my heart, and soul

    Of all my moral being.

    From 'Tintern Abbey' by William Wordsworth

     


    chrismacrae - Nov 23, 2006 4:34 am (# Total: 66)

    a reply to Surya

    First, Charles' thread says: "I’ll throw in the bright thoughts and even brighter questions that my networks propose, if you’ll throw in yours." A thread cannot do multiple things without getting lost. Until people who design virtual communities recognise this pattern rule of open space, we will never get anywhere.

    What Charles or thread designers could do (because they have powrer to create new threads) to develop this threads convergent invitation is to list at the top of this thread those purposes that people brought that they are prepared to give their own threads and continual awareness to. Of course this should involve a relationship commitment on all sides which might include:

    the purpose network proposer agrees she or he will always come back and answer on purpose conversations; that the purpose stated is indeed the deepest one of their network of conversation for many years to come; there are also other criteria which could be developed over time like in Surya's case if another city comes with the same problem, how will he make that citizen group as much as a part of the we are losing human being initiative as the hyderabad 

    I have met social edge's virtual community failure to develop around core missions over time in about 50 virtual comunities over the last 12 years including several that Charles also knows. I am interested in solutions that experience of such multiple failure to support doing of systematic chnage brings. My friends and I do have also 2 prototypes in test

    First is clubofcity which now includes clubofhyderabad . For 3 years I moderated the section of the European Union knowledgeboard.com on emotional intelligence. I found that naturally enough people wanted to talk about crises (and actionable learnings) in their own locality as well as communally whether people worldwide in other localities had similar experiences or collaboration soultions. I started threads within knowledgeboard by country, and every time anyone in my inbox mentioned a local crisis or emergent project/solution network, I pasted it into the country concerened. I did all of this as a volunteer.  I invited local people to add comments. Most lurked even though the country threads became some of the best browsed. I was then accused by the administrators of knowledgeboard of creating too many threads that were more like "newsletters from me" because I was the main one putting content in ver months or even years in spite of this being pasted through what local observers from many communities had sent me. So I started collaboration knowledge city blogs around http://clubofcity.blogspot.com/ of which there are now over 100. Ideally local people take control of editing the whole sity blog once they see it has momentum. Surya is welcome to be main editor of http://clubofhyderabad.blogspot.com/ if he sends me an external email to chris.macrae@yahoo.co.uk because blogger needs an external mail to invite moderators

     




    Youth Guides needed to community tools like linkedin, BBCactionNet, yahoogroups, Zaadz -   
    a ClubofCity ad

     




    However as I track citizen problems, which future historian networks have been learning how to do worldwide and locally deep for 23 years, we see sustainability clusters crises like climate, wars, poverty compounding such urgency all around the world that (as our senior economics editor first forecast in a death of distnace history of 1984) we have in all likelihood less than 9 years left to turn them round before it wil be impossible to turn round sustainability. Climate is only the first of many which we have finally got national governments confessing to: UK HM treasury invest 15 of the UK's whole exconomy in a opposite way to save 20% of the whole economy( to have any collaboration permission to save 100% of world). So at a macro (local to global systematic level of integrity) I am now most energetically interested in mapping what sustainability crisis issues do peoples recognise as need world changers travel guides to because if we don't turn systems around at every micro, inter and macro level by 2015 we never will.

    A change world travel guide has these features be it a printed brochure, a pdf, a thread within a social community,...:

    It agrees a deadline for "turning round" the world change- which all involved with the emergiung world citizen network will have cooperatively failed if start of sytsem turn round is not achived

    It votes for projects or other leaders who anyone who supports the guide's local to change world vision need to know of first both because there is an entrepreneurially proven project and it is replicable and whomever coordinates the project wants to open source wherever interlocally relevant. Several thousand Londoners are committed to making change world guides more and more popular until we become an olympic city in 2012 and have the stage to hand out whatever best world citizen travel guides have cooperatively been banked by then. So are there other cities anywhere that want to cooperate around making change world travel gudies as popular as guides to hotels or spectaor sports. Sustainability or not of the human race is ultilmately a media and learing crisis. As Gandhi said when he founded the univestity of ahmedabad in 1920 : knolwedge is that which liberates us. Problem is those who make a business case for knowledge management are propagating exactly the opposite knowledge (Soros' age of fallibility if you wish). What a leading knowledge guru in Japan calls learning slavery. For this reason, the first print world changers guide I am microfinacing is on learning and the core world chnagers featured have lifeteime experiences of Gandhi and Montessori. We're looking for others to feature particulary a practitioner of Brazilian Freire would be nice

    chris.macrae@yahoo.co.uk worldcitizen.tv

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Nov 23, 2006 12:46 pm (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    A remarkable response

    The response to this item may be the most intense and challenging I’ve yet seen to a SocialEdge event of this sort, and it’s taking me a while to figure out how to respond as moderator without disturbing any of the various flows that have emerged.



    • Pamela, it’s a pleasure as always to read you here, and you open up the issue of bandwidth in a way that’s so to speak “prior” to the first of my two keys, the choice of software. I was taking a certain amount of bandwidth for granted, thinking of how some conferencing software is simpler / more intuitive / more helpful than others, and how the choice of software is often made by people who aren’t thinking in terms of facilitating conversation and conviviality.

      And that’s important because, counter-intuitively perhaps, conviviality – and a sense of belonging – is the environment in which networking thrives. In Knowledge Management terms, it’s the tacit knowledge shared at the water cooler rather than the overt knowledge available in job descriptions and manuals that’s most important to an organization’s flow -- Etienne Wenger, I think, would call it a matter of “conversation”. It’s when we’re informal and friendly that we convey our most significant knowledge, and we only convey it to those with whom we feel a sense of kinship, of community, of trust.

      Etienne Wenger on Communities of Practice:

      http://www.ewenger.com/theory/


    • Paradoxically, that’s what Surya Prakash was calling for when he noted that his post had been “skipped” by following posters – he was basically expressing the wish that we who read and post should do so “as if” this were a conversation rather than a series of vaguely related monologues.

      Surya, I’d suggest we all need to know that in online conversations such as this one, the fact that someone follows a particular post with another post that doesn’t relate to it doesn’t mean the first post hasn’t been read or appreciated – sometimes a post is simply too rich for an easy reply to be possible, sometimes the reader who would most like to reply has an important task to perform, and bu the time she returns to your post the conversation has already moved on…

      But we’d all also do well to note SP’s point too, I suggest, and to try to acknowledge each other even when diverging from recently raised topics. One of the functions of this kind of software seems to be to allow the braiding of several distinct but related conversations into one rich, polyphonic thread.

      And the acknowledgments are the aspects of our messages which build, little by little, the sense of kinship and trust that in turn builds a resource into a vibrant community…

      In which the networking is richer and more enduring.


    • Chris Macrae calls us to action. I’m a wordsmith myself by trade, that is (somewhat paradoxically) my action, but his point is well taken.

      Chris, I don’t actually have the capacity to start threads here. I get invited to suggest topics for events fairly frequently, but that’s a bit different. My focus here in initiating this particular event was on what can be done to turn a resource into a community, but you take it further in the direction of action points, just as Pam brings up the brandwidth issue, Dan points to a wider network of networks with his post entitled Social Edge as a connector, not the main meeting place, and Jeff points us to the need for a certain context within government for success to be possible. And then there is Edward, who wrote:
        We do not yet have the technology to bring about meaningful personal interaction through websites.
      I believe we do, and how to do it is a large part of what I was hoping to get to here -- and in a later post, I'll tell a couple of stories about how erich the connections formed online can be.

      Each of these directions in turn could be the jumping off point for a single event of this kind, and the presence of all of them in this one thread suggests that our topic is a very live wire indeed, with far more “in” it than I originally hoped or imagined. I trust we will do our best to develop each strand in turn, while also weaving the beginnings of that net of regard and trust that’s my own “key” to this business.

      Enough for now,

      My regards to each of you, more to follow as your various and significant suggestions continue to bubble in the rich brew of this item…

      Charles

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Nov 23, 2006 12:57 pm (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [Jeff] Online and in line with Nature

    Thanks for that breath of Wordsworth!

     


    tutormentor - Nov 23, 2006 3:16 pm (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Network of purpose needs understanding of purposes

    The fact that we're each in the same on line forum may mean were achieving the purpose Charles had in starting this thread. We're getting to know each other better.

    However, I'm not sure that's a "network of purpose". From reading every message, I'm not clear what Surya's purpose is. I've a sense that Chris is setting up some sort of city to city collaboration, for a purpose that is important, but I'm not clear on what the path is to achiveing it. In Pam's post I sense that her purpose is to create greater access for those who cannot even get in this discussion.

    And I've stated my own pupose, which may be as unclear to others as yours is to me.

    I'm not sure about everyone else who post messages in forums like this or Omidyar, or everyone who write blogs, but I lead a small non profit and spend most of my waking hours trying to find a way to keep it funded, and achiveing its purpose. Finding extra time to spend digging through the deep thoughts posted on some of these forums is almost impossible.

    Thus, I respond to people who I think I can help, or who might help me because they understand and value what I do. In many ways I'm advertising. Hopefully I'm also sharing and contributing to the work others do.

    If I don't understand your purpose, or if it does not relate to my own purpose, I'm not likely to have enough time to spend in your space to figure it out.

    In the end, if we each have a different purpose, we're not going to spend hours in the same discussion, let alone years, no matter how important we think our own purpose is.

    I don't think Social Edge has more than a generic purpose, of supporting social entrepreneurs who do good for themselves by doing good for others. That's not the same as Social Edge to end Aids, or Social Edge to support Chris's purpose, or Dan's purpose.

    I heard a wealthy Indian speak a few months ago. He talked about all the people who came to his office asking for help. He had one rule. He said "Don't tell me of the problems. I know them. Tell me your solution."

    I think that's a recipe for building a network a purpose.

     


    Jeff.Mowatt - Nov 24, 2006 1:05 am (# Total: 66)
    P-CED

    Understand purpose

    This is true, TM. We spend a lot of time sifting through what may or may not be relevant to our own purpose, sometimes overwhelmed by the task, at others finding and engaging with those on a parallel path and the ideas generated in the informal groups we create might be passed from one network to another gaining momentum through our human ability to deduce association.

    Quite often though, it doesn't work out this way and with very large networks we may observe several groups, oblivious of each other, treading the same path. Our intelligent networking software might detect this and draw our attention to it, hopefully without homogenising us forcible.

     


    Laurinda - Nov 24, 2006 10:32 am (# Total: 66)

    Virtual networks versus human networks

    I have spent the past 20 years looking and trying various network platforms. Going back to the days of BBS's. Have run various projects as a means to establish a virtual community.

    One of the things that I have learn is that you need to integrate a human interface if you are going to have sustainable impact. You need to provide access to the "connectivity poor" through affordable portals .

    There is a need for multiple entry points into the network and multiple knowledge resources portals. The system needs to be intelligent enough to be able to automatically link "same topic" discussions even if they are happening across various discussion groups ... you need a network of netowrks intelligently linked but with an human interface at grass route level to support and assist information and knowledge dissemination, encourage debates and innovative though processes ...

    ... and I can go on and on ...

    This is part of the final research that we are in the process of conducting at present.

     

     

     


    tutormentor - Nov 24, 2006 2:05 pm (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Human interface and connecting virtual networks

    Laurinda, I agree that there needs to be human facilitation and a way to connect many platforms. Since I'm a small non profit, the only way I'll have access to the type of human facilitation that is needed is to find volunteers who will take this role. I've succeeded in a small way, but keep looking for partners at universities, where students who are learning these concepts, could be facilitators in the way I think you describe.

    In the same way, I'm looking for business and university partners who are developing new applications, who would look on me and what I'm doing as a way to test and demonstrate the applications in a real world purpose.

    Without finding volunteers, partners, and even a few financial supporters to make these advances in technology and needed manpower available, I'm like a kid staring in the window of a candy store, who has no money to buy what he wants so badly.

    I think there are many who might have an important vision, but don't have the tools and manpower, to create and lead networks of purpose.

     


    surya prakash.Vinjamuri - Nov 24, 2006 3:33 pm (# Total: 66)
    Life-Health Reinforcement Group

    Purpose of Network

    At the outset I like to submit that my  intention was not to compel individuals to respond.And I like to thank you for the responses which are helping me to understand and reflect.

    I like to share these initial thoughts -

    When you want a topic of this nature & intent to be infused with energy, then you need to have lot's of patience, in one word we need to underline the word PURPOSE & thus accept the fact it's highly process oriented.

    I keep looking at the process of deciding to bear a child to bringinging up the child to be responsible & purposeful.

    As huge responsibility lies in every couple  who decide to have an unprotective sex that their lies a possibility of becoming pregnant & one should own the responsibility of continuing & giving life and add purpose to it.

    Here I am quoting this example of Life - because I see lot's of gap in understanding this that " when you have ability to create then you have the responsibility of giving appropriate direction".

    Please see my earlier posts in the social edge where I  mentioned from the inception of social edge that " How I see life", at times I did share my personal tragedies & dilemma's.

    Social edge is home for me & at times I become demanding, please accept that, child in me is who prompts me to demand - I miss each one of you who feel for the society and I feel social edge is all about being HUMAN & that's the purpose.

    -surya.

     


    chrismacrae - Nov 25, 2006 3:55 pm (# Total: 66)

    To be devil's advocate

    If this virtual community box has no way that its moderators can create league tables of all time contributions (urgent projects, deep questions, whatever) across conversations either in dedicated threads or a community-wide newsletter -then I don't believe this has been designed as a powerful resource for activating community

    I find it odd that we seldom see the people who actualy designed the toolbox answering this sort of usability question 

    (Incidentally, there are ways eg a weblog dedicated to cataloguing - to patch the missing facilities but these still require moderators agreeing to repeatedly publicise eg the external bookmark that is used to catalogue projects ) or a link designed into the top page

     


    chrismacrae - Nov 25, 2006 4:19 pm (# Total: 66)

    Time for no-cost ads for social and other crisis entrepreneurs

    I strongly believe that people who are spending substantial amounts of time in virtual community spaces with the intent of connecting social projects/needs should start to pool/syndicated no-cost ads. These ads could look very much like the google box ads you see for example in weblogs. However people can agree to insert them appropiately wherever html access includes simple tables.

    Its important that the social advertiser has a bookmark to click to and is intent to greet any serious people who are drawn by the ad for a similar project or conversation. A few mock-up ads are here I agree the topic Surya is talking about is important and a crisis in many places. Does he wish to moderate a conversation on this over the coming months? If so we can co-create an ad once where know where his discussion group is bookmarked. I believe one of my all time social heroes lives in his vicinity so there is quite a lot of related social gravity. In principle I am prepared to take one ad per person who wants to try this around socila crisis issues. I am working in various networeks concerned with travel guides to world change in any virtual and print media. Having a catalogue of ads people want displayed because they represent a long-term entrepreneurial make a difference focus is a natural resource for our genres to help promote.

    chris macrae info@worldcitizen.tv

     


    Jeff.Mowatt - Nov 27, 2006 4:12 am (# Total: 66)
    P-CED

    Social advertisement

    I agree Chris, and can cite one example where you and I live. http://www.nearbuyou.co.uk/ for those trading for social purpose. It also raises once more, the question of whether search engines like Google work against social endeavour. I offer the example of "human trafficking" as a search term, returning ads for a band by that name promoted on Ebay. Hence one must bid against Ebay itself to draw attention to efforts to counter trafficking.

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Nov 27, 2006 8:26 am (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [Jeff] Social advertisement

    FWIW, I just googled "human trafficking" and the top sponsored link was for Ashoka, the top unsponsored return for www.humantrafficking.org/ -- a web resource for combating human trafficking. But you're right, the Google algorithms can be frustrating on occasion.

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Nov 27, 2006 8:51 am (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [tutormentor] Network of purpose needs understanding of purposes

    Hi Dan:

    Once again, thanks for your instructive comments. I'd like to pick up on one particular point you made...
      The fact that we're each in the same on line forum may mean were achieving the purpose Charles had in starting this thread. We're getting to know each other better.
    Yes. My purpose was to increase the degree to which we “know” each other, in the sense of feeling an active kinship with the people who post here, rather than using SE as a sort of reference work to be consulted when needed – and you are precisely one of those with whom I feel increasing levels of that kind of kinship.
      I'm not sure about everyone else who post messages in forums like this or Omidyar, or everyone who write blogs, but I lead a small non profit and spend most of my waking hours trying to find a way to keep it funded, and achiveing its purpose. Finding extra time to spend digging through the deep thoughts posted on some of these forums is almost impossible.
    I seem to have made it sound as though my purpose required a greater outlay of time than I meant to suggest. It’s a matter of repeated visits, repeated participation, and of giving information, advice, pointers or whatever as much as or more than taking them which counts here – and as with painting a watercolor, repetition enriches and deepens the effect.



    • There are people I seldom if ever see here any more, whose presence I sorely miss.

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Nov 27, 2006 9:02 am (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    informal mentoring

    They're not about the kind of formal mentoring that your work coordinates and facilitates, Dan, but I wanted to post you these two stories about the man who was my own mentor, a remarkable English priest and school teacher working in the Johannesberg shantytown called Sophiatown, Fr Trevor Huddleston.
      One young black kid in South Africa aged about 8 or 9 was sitting with his mother on the "stoop" outside his house in a South African shanty-town, when a white priest walked by and doffed his hat to the boy's mother. The boy could hardly grasp how this had happened -- his mother was a black woman, as one might say, "of no account". But the priest in question was Fr. Huddleston, and it was a natural courtesy for him to lift his hat in greeting a lady... The young boy never quite recovered from this encounter: we know him now as Nobel Peace laureate Desmond Tutu.
      Another young black kid, Hugh, aged 12 or 13, fell ill and was taken to hospital, where Trevor Huddleston visited him. Trevor asked him what he would like more than anything in this world, what would so thrill and please him that he would have the greatest possible motive for getting himself out of the hospital and back to school. Hugh said, "a trumpet, Father", so Trevor got hold of a trumpet to give to the boy -- now known the world over as the internationally renowned jazz trumpeter, Hugh Masekela.
    To my mind, those two stories suggest the incredible power of a concerned and loving elder to open new realms of possibility in young minds and hearts, whether the relationship is formal (Trevor was Hugh Masekela's school teacher at the time) or informal (he knew Mrs Tutu from her work as a volunteer with a local charity for the blind).

    At times, it seems to me that there's a "transmission" of sorts by which one life sparks another, and that Trevor's existence and impact was largely a matter of making that transmission with as many people as possible. I see your own work in a similar light, and it's the presence of so many "transmitters" gathered here that makes thuis place, for me, such a compelling online context to return to.

     


    tutormentor - Nov 27, 2006 11:32 am (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    The multiplier effect

    The story of Rev. Huddleston is one that I'd like to see multipled many times and in many places. That can't happen without a network of people working together with this purpose in mind.

    I learn a lot by dipping in and out of these discussions, just as I've learned alot by hosting Tutor/Mentor Conferences every six months for the last 13 years. In fact, this is the primary way that I learn. There just is not time for me to read lots of books and research papers, or to dig through some of the extensive on-line conversations that I find in some on-line forums.

    I feel that what Charles and others are Social Edge do to facilitate understanding and relationship building is extremely important, One of my goals is to find people who do this on a regular basis, within the tutor/mentor knowledge network. A few people with deep understanding of a subject can do much to help many other people build a functional understanding, which is enough to make better decisions in support of a cause.

    I've added a new Google map feature to the Program Locator at http://www.tutormentorconnection.org. Now when you search for a program in Chicago, you'll get a Google map showing where the program is located. Using the Google feature a program could also search for businesses, churches, hospitals, etc in the same zip code, who could be sources of volunteers, dollars, and job/internships for kids in the program.

    This work was done by volunteers, which shows what's possible if we can unleash the talent that's in the world and apply it toward a network of purpose.

     


    surya prakash.Vinjamuri - Nov 28, 2006 9:08 am (# Total: 66)
    Life-Health Reinforcement Group

    Twin situations

    Jeff.Mowatt,Dan,chrismacrae &Charles - I read through each of your mails so many times - 

    And I see & understand that they are so many different approaches for similar situations & networks would attend to the purpose.

    I just like to quote this dilemma - My wife being gyenocologist is able to address the issue of infertility and bring in life to those families who are longing to have children & I being part of implementation of Child Care Protection Act 2000 (Govt.,of India) am responsible for taking care of children who are destituted for various reasons are given direction with provision of safe environment to continue their life till they attain 18years of age.

    So while we lead our life I see that we have the responsibility of understanding,reflecting, on what is going on with life in the area we represent and thus develop, borrow & or just observe to help ourselves to move forward.

    I see reflections by seniors such as Charles, experiences shared by Dan, knowledge of various methods suggested by chrismacare & Jeff,  along with words of WORDSWORTH shared are deffinete inputs for me, here I like to end using the words of Charles -

    " it's the presence of so many "transmitters" gathered here that makes this place, for me, such a compelling online context to return to".

     


    chrismacrae - Nov 28, 2006 9:55 am (# Total: 66)

    my 2 end cents worth

    I would recommend that Surya goes to http://www.ashoka.org/ and goes through the catalogue of social entrepreneurs in India which is where Ashoka started social entrepreneurship's edge nearly 30 year ago. I believe many do work relevant to his or his wife's vocation. What I dont know is whether they network as a group yet. If they do, they should let Surya and his wife join their knowhow flows; if they don't perhaps that's the first network of purpose Surya can build out from. If that makes sense but for some reason there are inertias in getting India's child-nurturing entrepreneurs on the same map, tell me and I will go pay Bill Drayton a visit down in Arlington. I enjoy the cure of publishing whether network maps connect or are full of holes!

    I have just come across perhaps the most purposeful message a summit of 100000 people has ever issued; world social forum kenya 2007 has announced its about: 

     which world do you want to live in 

    • B) where profit matters most?
    • A) where life matters most?

    see the 3 minute invitation video link at http://futurehistorian.tv/_wsn/page8.html 

    I'm working on helping to propagate the WSF ad in simplest ways that any forum can include, but  help is always inspiring if this message is one your social networks want to interconnect to chris.macrae@yahoo.co.uk http://futurehistorian.tv/

    Incidentally , Peter Eigen of Transparency International and ashoka's Global Academy forecast last year that Jamuary 2007 would be one year from our last chance deadline for starting to end corruption everywhere. So for our amazing human race, Kenya is probably the final crossroads for all networks of purpose to do with human sustainability. It is not just Gore's and Skoll's climate crisis' inconvenient truth where we at the precipice (or final tipping point) of dare we get hi-trust and deep purpose interconnected.

    If folk want a community thread to continue conversing around the WSF invitaion at , one is at http://www.omidyar.net/group/community-general/news/1564/

     


    Jeff.Mowatt - Nov 28, 2006 11:33 am (# Total: 66)
    P-CED

    A chance, at last

    The end of corruption is something worth talking about, so I'll join you Chris, This brought to mind the story of one of the earliest advocates, a lone tranmitter who I only learned of recently:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberius_Gracchus

    Ebay has now been outbid it seems, so perhaps as an example in one small way, the power of commenting on this elsewhere drew attention. Or could it have just been sychronicity?

    Of destitute children, who can be related directly to the effects of corruption in our "economic" orphans, of good business practice over bad, of government bodies who accept corruption as an inevitable overhead, I can say much and even propose some solutions.

    So with our many transmitters, perhaps we can succeed where Tiberius was overwhelmed?

     


    Bill Snyder - Nov 28, 2006 4:22 pm (# Total: 66)
    Cambridge, Massachusetts

    networks of purpose -- communities of practice

    New to this list, so please excuse if this is old hat....

    "Communities of practice" offer a structural model for thinking about intentional design and cultivation of networks--specially those that emphasize action-learning.  (cf. Charles' mention in post #16 above.)

    Typical success factors: active facilitation (often requires sponsorship for strategic communities); issues close to participants' personal/professional passion; and requisite mix of ways to engage.

    Building on tutormentor post #18: Is the domain of this group too generic?  Need design ones on more specific topics, e.g., social entrepreneurs on topics related to China or AIDs (mentortutor's examples)?  Need do outreach to coalesce group with more specific shared interests?  Need time/funds (sponsored by self/other) to support sufficient facilitation/coordination--and perhaps travel to meet in person?  Etc.

    As reference re: application in civic context (city-based multi-stakeholder coalitions on topics like reducing gun violence, sharing ideas/experience across multiple US cities), see: www.businessofgovernment.org/main/winners/ [author: Snyder]

    Would be interested in hearing from those focusing on networks for cross-city collaboration on public-good issues (health, housing, education, econ. developmenjt, etc.).

    - Bill

     


    joe angelelli - Nov 28, 2006 5:13 pm (# Total: 66)
    Pittsburgh, PA

    Cross city/state networks....

    Also new to this list...glad I found you folks.

    My organization, the Pioneer Network, is an umbrella group for "culture change" in long-term care and aging (Ashoka Fellows Bill Thomas and Barry Barkan are founding Pioneers). In the last 18 months, the number of statewide culture change coalitions has gone from 6 to 33. We have a collaborative blog built on the Scoop platform http://www.PioneerExchange.org, but we're finding it to be not the most appropriate way to stimulate and maintain "communities of practice" on-line. So we're looking at converting over to a Drupal run site to help "groups" communicate within and across states, something similar to what they're trying to do at http://www.relocalize.net.

    Just downloaded your "Communities of Practice" document -- very compelling. I plan to share it with the coalition leaders. Thanks.

     


    tutormentor - Nov 28, 2006 6:18 pm (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Business/Government.org

    Bill, Joe,

    Your ideas align with mine.Bill, what's your connection to the Business/Government.org group. I see there are several IBM people. IBM sponsors and e-mentoring program, meaning lots of their people are already engaged in electronic mentoring. I'm sure many are also involved with face to face mentoring. I have two IBM employees in my organization. Thus, this company is in a good position to be a community of practice, and could have the same impact on technology as the Lend A Hand Program (http://www.lend-a-hand.net) is having on getting lawyers involved with tutor/mentor programs in Chicago.

    In IBM's case, if we could gain support from the BG group to build a community of practice within IBM, this would lead to cross city collaboration because there are IBM offices in every city.

    If we can apply this thinking to the world of tutor/mentor, or helping kids from poverty be starting careers at IBM some day, then I feel the lessons can apply to building communities of practice in any other sector.

    I also think we could build some infrastruture and people mobilization that could feed into the work Chris is talking about.

    I could just email the IBM contacts shown on the web site, but if you know the folks and would make an introduction, that might be the tipping point.

     


    tutormentor - Nov 29, 2006 11:39 am (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    New York Times article shows why we should connect

    On Page 4 of the Nov. 29 International edition of the New York Times is an article titled "Report Shows Muslims Near Bottom of the Social Ladder". The article says that out of India's population of 1.1 billion, Muslims make up 13%. The report's major finding is that "The community is relatively poor, more illiterate, has lower access to education and private-sector jobs and lower availability for bank credit for self-improvement."

    They could have been talking about African Americans in America and have written a similar story.

    Like most media stories, this one does not point to groups like Social Edge, who are hosting discussions so people from India, the US and elsewhere can connect to build relationships, and solutions, to these issues. Thus, we need to create this call to involvement ourselves, using this and many similar forums.

    In the Links library of http://www.tutormentorconnection.org I have nearly 1000 links that provide information related to poverty in America, and volunteerism, tutor/mentor programs, and strategic philanthropy as solutions. Anyone in the world can use these Links to find ideas that they can use in their own city/country. Furthermore, I have sections for International Mentoring, and Discussion Forums. People can add links to these sections, enabling US programs to learn from International partners, and enabling people in different countries to find each other.

    My site will never be the main site to learn about poverty in India, or any other country. Thus, someone else has to duplicate what I'm doing so there is such a site for other countries, or other cities. However, once you do that, adding your link to my site enables anyone coming to my site, to go to your site, to learn all about poverty and solutions to poverty, in your country.

    As we think about how we network around issues like this, we should also be thinking about who we should be inviting to participate. In my last message, I suggested inviting IBM volunteers. We could just as easily be inviting leaders of India's IT industry. They have the same skills, and the same self interest. We could also be inviting students and alumni from universities from around the world.

    If we can get a few business, volunteers and donors help us create a technology infrastructure that groups in different countries could draw from to create their own networks of purpose, we'd lower the costs of getting started, and find manpower from universities to help with the work of building a network. We could do much to help end poverty in many places.

     


    surya prakash.Vinjamuri - Nov 29, 2006 9:38 pm (# Total: 66)
    Life-Health Reinforcement Group

    Hesitation a stumbling block

     

    Ours a small Non-Profit unit which managed by Doctors who chip in time & money for social cause, while surviving it is rather important to serve.

    The entire philosophy runs on the basis of SHARE.

    I see Dan what he is mentioning about is based on this principle of sharing.

    I see hesitating to ask or borrow concepts for promoting well being of the society each represents will be stumbling block for furtherence dream developing into  ONE WORLD

    I like to further the dialogue of my previous post where I mentioned Twin situation we are facing -i.e: If we are able to BRING IN LIFE by following effectively with infertile couple and thus being blessed with a child, on the other side of it we also take care of the children who are being deserted.

    Here I see twin responsibility while we protect & promote health of the children who are born, we have the responsibility of the children "who are not wanted".

    I see in one's life it's a luxury to have hand holding by dear one's for life.

    So I see we have to develop  means of  hand holding by organizing systems where in we come together in the area we live and towards achieving this I initiated an activity  called OPEN HOUSE  where people can just drop in and they have access to kitchen and on marked days & time health experts come and share their knowledge and we have continuous dialogue on life happening, where we have active listeners.

    This I started in June, now you should see how people just walk in as a right & relate.

    I will attach photographs in coming posts.

    What I see need of the hour is to have people for people for life.

    Thus we can see & feel purpose of network.

    Mother of all is the one who accepts limitations & infuse energy and thus strengthen purpose of life for each of us being born.

    -surya.

     

     

     


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Nov 30, 2006 12:20 pm (# Total: 66)

    great discussion

    First, welcome to Socialedge Charles. I know you have been partof the community for sometime and we are happy to see you on board.

    Communities are organic. They grow, usually in unplanned ways. Butg we can create a growth environment and fertilize them. Photos help; so do phone numbers. Joint events are great - events in which two or more people join together to post. Joint projects in which a group of the community see a common purpose and work offline together.

    Since we are not in the same place, to meet personally, we would have to have a conference (hint to Victor). A good example of this is YearlyKos - the annual conference of liberal bloggers from around the country. this is the first time most of these people had met or even knew if they were male or female. It really tightened up the community.

     


    melomara - Nov 30, 2006 12:58 pm (# Total: 66)
    Corporate Coach, Innovation Leader

    Communities of common purpose

    I see some hunger here to nurture specific communities of purpose around mentoring, welfare of children, etc...  Back to the basics of what it takes to nurture on-line communities - as Bill Snyder says in post 33 above - communities will flourish around a common purpose.  I think moderators are important, and if possible, some true action can result.  On zaadz.com, there are many specific "zpods" which people can join.  For example, I am a member of the "An Inconvenient Truth" pod.  Even on zaadz, I think that more work is required to get and keep people engaged. 

    I would like to propose the idea of creating communities of purpose around a series of "Bigger Games".  Check out The Bigger Game Company website. 

    This is a cut and paste of the Bigger Game Model, copyright and trademarked by The Bigger Game Company.

    Everyone here, every social entrepreneur is playing a Bigger Game.  Many of our Bigger Games are in the same playing field, with a very similar compelling purpose.  We are all looking for ways to engage allies in "our" Bigger Game.  That where the need for communities of common purpose is really strong, and where the impact of these communities can be bold and impactful.

    I am good friends with the founders of this company, and I use the model in my corporate role with internal teams.  I believe that to create a community around a compelling purpose, and then leveraging the model intentionally to discuss and clarify the hunger/need, the existing and needed allies, investments, etc... could be powerful.  I believe that overtime, the community members would be compelled to meet via phone or face to face to take the community to new levels, and real world action. 

     


    chrismacrae - Nov 30, 2006 5:49 pm (# Total: 66)

    Planet purposeful News - Those at grassroots have the intelligence best for world strategists need

    We now have multiple cases and many webs of purposeful networks for open world citizens to connect around out of every locality http://clubofcity.blogspot.com/ ;

    clean energy emerging here http://up200.tv/_wsn/page3.html

    why Yunus is currently the world's most value multiplying strategist/economist http://grameen.tv/ http://brac.tv/

    to improve their sustainability reputations, the smartest game the world's largest corporations can play is to partner in no loss-strategies gravitated by vital human development rights - see eg the Grameen -Danone story at the Clinton Global Initiative; if you can't find it and need to email me at chris.macrae @yahoo.co.uk http://brandchartering.blogspot.com/ http://worldclassbrands.blogspot.com/

    why Bushes top-down team lost the war - which some of them have frankly admitted - ultimately how ever greatly inconvenient the power of whites in a house in DC, you need hi-trust relationships with people at localities if they are going to trust you to reconstruct their lands

    indeed, all 4 of Larry Brilliant's core crises to the sustainability of the species depend integrally on the intelligence that only those at grassroots context can see and help interconnect; the folks who have not be listened to the top for years- remember Orleans; those charged to respond to levee safety preferred running arabian horse networks and wearing the smartest suits televised disasters had ever seen

    link at http://guidemakers.net/ ... all our compound global sustainability crises http://changeworld.net/

     can only be resolved in time if local intelligence is integrated with those who have global budgets; tangible corruption is about bribes; intangibles corruption is what eg Exxon have done in misinforming the world as if they have all the correct knowledge;led by Branson we in the Uk we are prepared to declare legal war on Exxon; false information about sustainability of our species is the biggest weapon of mass destruction in tghe knowledge netwoking age;  why does our treasury have to spend 1% of GDP to save 20%; entirely because those partying with the non-transparent Exxon network has been spending billions of dollars on false messages; buying up any academics or politicians who needed funding however blindly they thought they were doing the patriotic thing; every country similarly afflicted should send Exxon its bills? That would bring a purposeful social  edge to  commune round, to practice across world citizen networking http://worldcitizen.tv/ - just as well  Brits also own the largest public broadcaster in the world; it is time for information that grassroots people have collected throufgh generations is fully valued insetad of externalised onto

    there are mathematical and economic reasons for what I hav estated in this post that some of us clans and networks -including the guy who deputy edited The Economist over 5 deacdes who hapens to be my father - have been studying for 23 year now - the new book of maps will be published next year; the treausre trail for chnaging network economics starts with tghe original future hostory on death of distance

    http://www.normanmacrae.com/netfuture.html#Anchor-Changin-27687

    http://www.normanmacrae.com/intrapreneur.html

    http://entrepreneurialrevolution.blogspot.com/

    http://er100.blogspot.com/

    http://futurehistorian.tv/

    http://networkeconomics.tv/

    http://www.valuetrue.com/ http://joyoftruth.com/

     

     


    tutormentor - Nov 30, 2006 6:52 pm (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Tutor/MentorConference today in Chicago

    I hosted a conference in Chicago today. Around 100 people attended, including leaders of tutor/mentor programs, a sr. program officer of MacArthur Foundation and to Ex. Directors of small foundations, as well as many college, faith based and misc. people. The goal was collaboration and capacity building, which is the same goal I have here on Social Edge.

    In the Discussion Forum of http://www.tutormentorconnection.org I'll be posting some of the questions raised today, and my hope is that people from the conference will join in. 

    This will be a challenge though. In a final wrap up session of about 25 people, I asked how many have a web forum, or a blog. None did. Thus, connecting our face to face people, with our on-line people, is a mountain we must climb if we can move to a next level of collaboration and community building.

    Thanks for the ideas you all are sharing.

     


    joe angelelli - Nov 30, 2006 8:36 pm (# Total: 66)
    Pittsburgh, PA

    Nested conversations, nested communities

    I share Patrick's perspective above (#38) concerning the organic nature of all this.

    Without getting too bogged down in the details, I think having the capacity for nested comments is crucial, as it allows a sense of dialogue and conversation to develop more naturally as compared to simply stacked comments.

    I was contributing on http://www.dailykos.com in the pre-Scoop days (mid-2003) and remember the power that nested comments provided in terms of building community after the conversion to Scoop (that and "diaries" contributed by readers). There's an incredible sense of community there (100,000+ members), but there's still the issue of effective ways to organize and communicate around specific issues, as Scoop doesn't really provide for that. I think there's has been a conscious decision to avoid creating/facilitating splintered "groups," but that hasn't stopped folks from organizing on their own via Google groups, etc. In fact, the YearlyKos event that Patrick mentioned was 100% initiated and pulled off by a small group of dedicated volunteers. (I was unable to attend YearlyKos, and feel like I really missed out on something.)

     


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Nov 30, 2006 11:05 pm (# Total: 66)

    joe - the planning has begun for next yar's yearlykos

    plan now: chicago, last week of july. I am seeing gina this weekend and will keep you up to date on the progress

     


    chrismacrae - Dec 1, 2006 7:41 am (# Total: 66)

    Be The Change * Be The Connect compounds NoP integrating localities globally

    Mapmakers can see that there is a double loop here where you are likely to be perceived as being the worst of both worlds especially if you are trying with whole sincercity to breakthrough to be linking in to the best for the world. Give me some open space to question please http://guidemakers.net http://changeworld.net http://worldcitizen.tv

    q1 so how do you do? To be or not to be?? a world citizen???

    After playing with networks in 1973 as a researched at the UK National Development Program for computer assited learning networks my advice :

    on be the change (towards world citzineship) is know your clan, the tree you branch out of

    1973 was a great time to explore learning networks because there were no big business interests telling you how. Most of what our educationalists in Leeds and other Universities found in 1973 still hasnt begun to be replayed around today's internet. That is why I agree with my father's 1984 forecasts that learning networks will be one of the great crisies that will compound sustainability or loss of futire generations http://www.normanmacrae.com/netfuture.html But I never quite understood where their whole system dna cam from

    Accidentally it turn sout I can go up my family tree to just 4 people who had impacts on nearly a 100 nations; mt father who interviewwd leaders in over 30 countries over his 5 decades at The Economist; his father who was a British diplomat in 15 extra countries in the period betwen the 2 world wars who accidentally witnessed the worst government systems yet globally topped over people - Stalin's Russia and Hitler's Germany; a cousin whose family line is missionaries in Africa but who's reporting as war correspondent from places like Iraq. So I am interested in Be the Internationalist. I do not claim to know a lot about each culture. But I do see that bridging cultures requires a lot of trust. I can see how to rank top people in the last US administrations on cross-cultural bridging intelligence. Most are definitely in the lowest quartile compared with all 6 billion beings. But then being at the top of a superpower is the greatest system handicap you could have when a world is integrating local networks like tehre will be no tomorrow. Clinton of the white house was very median at cross-culture bridging; today at CGI he's a world benchmark for all who act for sustainability

    But as a Scot I can also discover with deep passion that free ethical markets were mapped by Adam Smith and never more systematically questioned for transparency than by the 1840s founder of The Economist James Wilson http:er100.blogspot.com . Both Adam and James would have found it funny peculiar that social entreprenurship is claimed to be a new world lens when mathematically it was far simpler in their old english frameworks; it was what they always integrated and web-logged in their maps. A map of productive and demanding human relationship systems - be this economic or social or multiplying te compound welath and health of each as win-win-win - you see does not work unless it connects people on the ground. You cannot truly audit maps from top-down governace without starting each audit with he most grounded new observations. Most Scots also were expatriated worldwide well before 1900 because the English sent up early global accounatnts to prove to Lords that sheep made better 90 day numbers than sheep. Of course tangibkle accountants spreadsheets have and always will be were extremely illiterate in terms of compound maths. Nothing much has changed to this day -has it?: the global accountants are rigged around investing in machines not people; in separating ring fences not flowing life-critical knowhow and precenting risks ahead of time even as networks as sytems*systems*systems make boudaries absolutely critical to sustainability of wholes; they have so little understanding of compound consequence maths that unlike true entrepreneurs global accounting and man consulting align with the type of top-down economist who has caused the greatest market failure ever as HM Treasury now reports the climate crisis and th need to invest 1% of DGP systamatically digferently to save 20% of GDP or 100 of the future. Quite frankly with only one of the 3 worst come ons still surviving Exxon,(Enron, Andrson) national leaders should be sending their bills to Exxon now that would be an interseting network orf purpose.

    so might some of the following:

    1 help Brits take over the BBC and restore it as a world service questioner for all peoples

    2 add a slide to the white paper first presented Delhi 2004 at http://www.globalreconciliationnetwork.org/ on the coming wars between goodwill and badwill networks; an interesting branch in this area of research was early 2001 where the chair of the committe of Brookings and Georegtowns deepest brains on compound future welath presented the extrem risks of not understanding this to the incoming adminsitartion from texas as was givem a Texan booting; I happened to interview her the month after this happened; her compound rsik warning of unseen wealth seemed like dire spirals then; of course her research has proved to be the greatest future history system lens white houses of man has so far not chosen to see through

    3 vote for the 200 people league table of most networked being best for the world http://up200.tv/ http://www.normanmacrae.com/netfuture.html#Anchor-Changin-27687 http://groups.google.com/group/maclink/about?hl=en-GB

    4 make a map between to randomly take 3 : social edge, omidyar.net and Zaadz- given that the world citenry values seem to be pasionately the sam,e in all 3 od tehse paces - why no be the connection bridges; presumably becuase socila edge is most interested in channeling skoll foundation news; omidyar.net believes fairness means channeling nobody news (even though most of its members would love to know what connection can be mead with eg the 100 million dollar funding to explore microfinace at Tufts) and Zaadz boldly tries to design a new virtual community interface unlike the very clunky ones of socila edge and omidyar.net; of course it would be good to hear what I misunderstand from those who actually know why each community separates boxes instead of connecting them

    5 devalue the dollar by another 100% unless politicinas agre eit is time to stop only devaluing peoples currency when corporations are more to blame; we could for example all agree that Exxon is wortless and all other oil companies are to be taxed so they never make a higher profit than say they did on inauguration day in 2001; that order of worldwide democratic decision would suitably devalue a global market sector which has taken humanity to the precipice http://sqtest.tv I agree this is a revolutionary idea but do you think something elss thah that will turn the tides of bombs for everyone - a chapter my dad as future hostorian first wrote up in 1975 as the greatest risk of America's Third Centiry as The Economst called hi survey map http://futurehostorian.tv

    perhaps a topline story on Gandhi should be the bottom lines on be the change*connection; I have been reading him avidly recently but not as much as a grandson of someone who c-wrote the legalese of India's Indpendence shoudl; so far I havent found the context where he proclaimed be the chnage - please beam me up if you know; however it is clear from his writings and independent reveiws by Eisntein that he was the greatest connector of all 3 apexes of systemic entrepreneurial revolution : micro inter and macro; and alsways in that audit order at each cylce; a family story hepls to understand why; his dad's job was to do the triage at the court of a local prince; when people came demanding an audience with the prince, Mr Gamdhi would know who led each subnetwork more actively than ever the prince did; and work out whether the triage participant had a concept worth the subnetworks audience; and would otherwiose offer kindly adice on how to colaborate on an existing NoP project;

     

     

     

     


    chrismacrae - Dec 2, 2006 7:44 am (# Total: 66)

    eg of beyond borders purpose

    I justify inserting this here as I hope we have no more united purpose than peace and one of the prizes giftgivers to this competition is skoll in the form of some free invites to skoll 2007 world championships in Oxford

     

    I see that http://www.changemakers.net/ has now translated its online peacemakers competition into Arabic at this bookmark http://www.changemakers.net/journal/peace/submitentryarab.cfm

     

    could you pass the news on if you know of anyone who might wish to participate; I can't speak anything but English but if anyone needs to understand who stages http://www.chnagemakers.net/ before deciding on participation I can send their email of queries to Bill Drayton whose investment in changemakers and 2000 social entrepreneurs around the world over the last 30 years can be browsed at http://www.ashoka.org/ or experienced on video at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5793752041303022963&q=Ashoka

     

    chris macrae http://up200.tv/ us tel 301 881 1655 info@worldcitizen.tv

    http://groups.google.com/group/maclink/about?hl=en-GB&

     

    http://www.changemakers.net/journal/peace/submitentryarab.cfm


    chrismacrae - Dec 3, 2006 6:43 am (# Total: 66)

    One of the simplest ways to network purpose would be if the different people social edge hires to converse connected the biggest stories social edge propagates. So a newsletter has just been sent out by skollfoundation presumably to thousands about the scandal of ever increasing cancerous chemicals in food chains. But as far as I can see there is no one-click debate and network of purpose assembling around that. Meanwhile the biggest story skoll has helped propagate in the last 2 years is climate crisis but oddly if we searched socialedge there's nowhere that a conversation is editing the progress that Inconvenient truth is waving all round the erst of the www - even as in parallel Al Gore has been taking training of 1000 people in using the slides from skolls films live in Nashville and Sydney

    If tangible real estate is all about location, location, location - purposeful networks , virtual community real estates and communications are all about connection, connection, connection not authors however deeply caring or gurued who seldom if ever commune between themselves and know the future history of the biggest purposes skoll has been mediating and helping people ro participate in propaganda which maps through transparently to where each of us beings can simply see how to act on it to our hearts content

     


    tutormentor - Dec 3, 2006 8:23 am (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Issues index

    It would be interesting to see an "issues index" added to the home page, that searches key words, similar to a Google search, to identify the issues most talked about in the forum and discussion space. Issues, as opposed to topics, are what creates a network of purpose.

    An attempt was made a while back to create a geographical connection that would show what part of the world a person was focusing his/her efforts on. I can't seem to find a link to that discussion. Charles, maybe you recall it? There is a giving map on the home page, which I have no idea what it's purpose is. Maybe a map should click to discussions that relate to that part of the world?

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Dec 3, 2006 11:26 am (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re [tutormentor] Issues Index

    Dan:
      An attempt was made a while back to create a geographical connection that would show what part of the world a person was focusing his/her efforts on. I can't seem to find a link to that discussion. Charles, maybe you recall it?
    Yes, indeed.

    It was calloed the Social Entrepreneur Index, Dan, and represented an early attempt of mine to facilitate connections between poeoploe in nearby locations -- my original idea was to have a similar device for people working on similar issues, the two comnbined giving users the ability to network with those who (a) were dealing with some of the same local issues or (b) faced similar problems.

    It didn't really catch the eye of enough SEers to become the resource it could have been, and seems to have been archived around June of this year -- it is no longer available from the front page, but you can find it at:

    http://www.socialedge.org/socialsector/social_ent_index.html?293@@

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Dec 3, 2006 11:36 am (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    I'm collecting ideas

    I'm collecting ideas on what we could do at SE to facilitate networks of purpose, heightening the sense of community, etc -- the sorts of things that have been proposed in this item -- so if any of you feel like it, posting a brief list of bullet points with suggestions would be most welcome.

    That doesn;t mean we can't also continue with more detailed discussions -- just that short bullet points on the main ideas would be helpful.

    Thanks.

     


    tutormentor - Dec 3, 2006 2:52 pm (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    National Coalition for Deliberation and Discussion (NCDD)

    This is not short bullet points, but one thing we might consider is that Social Edge may not be the best forum for discussing wide ranging ways to work on social issues. That's because it has a narrow focus on social entrepreneurism as the main unifying feature for people who come here.

    I've been browsing a site called the National Coalition for Deliberation and Discussion, which has many resources, and many links to related sites that host various forums for deliberation and discussion. The link is http://www.thataway.org/

    My goal on NCDD is finding groups already working in the same area I am, or finding partners/volunteers who can help facilitate the information I'm collecting so that more people understand it and act on it. As a small organization of 2-3 people, I am limited by time and talent as to what I can do on my own.

    If other sites are already doing things we want to accomplish, it might be better to draw some social edge people to those sites, rather than try to build an ideal environment on a site we don't have much control of.

     


    Bill Snyder - Dec 4, 2006 9:23 pm (# Total: 66)
    Cambridge, Massachusetts

    Mini-case illustration about facilitating networks for global change

    Regarding facilitating "networks of purpose," consider a mini-case illustration on cultivating linkages and nurturing global-change communities….

    In 2005 a number of foundations joined forces to bring together ~70 NGOs to foster innovation, knowledge-sharing, and new relationships. (Conveners included Rockefeller Bros. Foundation, Ford, Mott, General Services, and others.)

    The gathering was held last fall in New York and included NGO leaders from around the world. Their work addressed a wide range of issues, including trade, human rights, climate, labor, environment, migration, etc. In a pre-conference survey, NGO leaders said the most powerful lever for increasing impact today was facilitating connections—-beginning with greater collaboration among NGOs themselves.

    Indeed, perhaps the most visible result of the conference was the emergence of a new community of practice on the topic of “corporate accountability.” It includes 10+ NGO leaders who met at the RG-05 conference and share a passion for making progress on this topic-—and who feel strongly they can do better by working together. They were given seed funding by the RG-05 conference organizers to cultivate stronger inter-NGO working relationships and pursue new joint initiatives. They collectively combine skills in areas such as standard-setting, legal action, campaigning, network-development, media, and dialogue. (They met again recently at the RG-06 event--http://rg06.bridge-initiative.org.)

    For brief summary of results of a pre-conference survey of NGO leaders see www.reinventingglobalization.org at “Conference” and download “Survey Results.”

    See attached PP slide for a way to map global players who are addressing the spectrum of public-good issues through a variety of strategies and tactics. This 2-dimensional graphic was used to map players at the RG-05 conference--as a way to visualize how to encourage cross-fertilization of ideas/expertise and foster new collaborations. Other key dimensions not represented here include Places and Sectors.

    A 4-dimensional map highlights opportunities for weaving together a multi-stakeholder "action-learning system" with the requisite variety to match the complexity of the problems we face. Beginning with a map of the players helps us see the landscape of players, issues, and initiatives--and much can be achieved simply by seeing who else is out there!

    The RG-05 experience suggests what we can achieve through more systematic and intentional mechanisms for convening players and fostering ongoing connections among them. There is tremendous latent capacity ready to be leveraged if we will only facilitate a critical mass of strategic linkages.

    As this mini-case suggests, the how-to for cultivating networks is itself not so complicated--some discovery, mapping, convening, and ongoing connecting and sustaining would achieve a great deal. One key ingredient we need more of now: Visionary sponsors willing to provide ongoing support, legitimacy, influence, and seed-funds.

    * * *

    p.s., There are a growing number of global networks that connect local-global initiatives and include players across sectors--what my colleague Steve Waddell calls "global action networks" (GANs). For examples, see www.gan-net.net.

    Attachments:

    06.12.05 weaving local-global public-good networks....ppt (47 KB)

     


    surya prakash.Vinjamuri - Dec 4, 2006 11:08 pm (# Total: 66)
    Life-Health Reinforcement Group

    Recap

    Friends,

    After reading Charles post where he had said -"I'm collecting ideas on what we could do at SE to facilitate networks of purpose, heightening the sense of community, etc"

    I took print of the entire conversation in A4 size and placing them in two columns and reduced the font size - I got 17 pages and I started reading -

    so much of openness I saw and I also saw the wealth of information & experience each is possessing and the frankness of communication and the level of compassion demonstrated was awesome.

    Just I like to post what we are doing as a recap -( why I am posting here is explained at the bottom)

    Couple aspiring to become pregnant are coming to our clinic > their wish is being heard and they are blessed with a child > child grows and some reason gets deviated and lands in a situation where in there is nobody to take care > with power bestowed on us in implementation of Child Care & Protection Act we are able to take care of them and give them direction > Meanwhile whoever comes for clinical help we are able to guide them and treat them, at times save lives > As women moves into her menopause we are able to back them up and improve their quality of life > People who are aged and who are residing in our area are personally taken care and we are able to meet their basic needs.

    While all the above situations and interventions are going on, one thing which is standing out is our approach to food -- from production i.e. from protecting 200 farmers who produce food to attending to people who are hungry (which is done through open house) is what we are able to do.

    All these activities are carried out with thorough reflection on Life, which is done under banner - Life-Dialogue

    Friends,

    All this work was done after founding the organisation (1999)to enquire why after 52 years of our independence we are not still able to organize.

    Friends, today we reached a stage again, where land  becoming domain of few players - our farmers are committing suicides and govt,. stating farming is no more lucrative (irony here is when land being most fertile).

    Friends I strongly believe what we do to our lands is what we do to ourselves - ie, you protect the land and you will be protected.

    This entire dialogue when happening, here we are mute witness to the entire game.

    So, what I like to impress upon is - we need lots & lots of hand holding and volunteers to understand these and they being empowered with knowledge & strength to face the consequences of acts, which will determine our very existence.

     


    tutormentor - Dec 5, 2006 8:57 am (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Maps - same words, different meaning

    Thanks Bill for providing this information. However, when I looked at your map I saw a different version than the maps I'm using.   Visit http://www.tutormentorprogramlocator.net/programlocator/default.asp and you can see maps of Chicago that show where poverty and poorly performing schools are concentrated. Search the Find a Program section, by zip code, and  you'll see that we provide listings for existing programs, with a Google map interface.

    If Surya were listed on a Program Locator for organizations that do what his organization does, the map would show where he is in India, and might also show who else, if any, is doing the same work.

    If the world organiztions were creating map directories like this, the could be drawing volunteers and resources from the rest of the world through the map and to the organizations working to end poverty. They could also be using the map to create an understanding of all of the places in the world where there is a need for service, but no programs currently serving that area.  This hopefully, would lead to a strategic increase in the distribution of programs.

     

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Dec 5, 2006 9:55 am (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    A word to the wise

    It seems to me that we have a strong conversation going on here, and I don't want to see it dampen down unnecessarily. I suspect that it will be moved from the "front page" position with graphic that it now enjoys at the top of SE's home page to a place in SE's "Top 10 on the Edge" list tomorrow -- so please bookmark it now, or check the "Top 10" list to follow it after it's moved...

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Dec 5, 2006 10:01 am (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [tutormentor] Maps - same words, different meaning

    Like Dan, I noted the map in Bill's .pdf didn't "map" the geographic distribution of the ventures in question, but guessed that would be part of the third or fourth dimensions he mentioned. The idea of using a 4-d map is an intriguing and difficult one, because visualizing in 4-d is very tricky for us humans, and I wonder what such a map would look like. Even 3-d can be difficult to convey in 2-d -- and thatr's when we're talking static maps; things get even tougher where there's a need ot represent change over time, as in the kind of process mapping that is needed for dealing wi9th feedback loops.

    Do you have any examples of 3-d (or even 4-d) maps, Bill? Preferably with location as one of the elements?

     


    tutormentor - Dec 5, 2006 10:30 am (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    multi dimension maps

    Charles, I've also been trying to think in multi dimensions rather than one dimension. If you think of a ball, it is made of of an infinite number of one dimensional spheres, each using the same hub.

    I have a section links in a process improvement and innovation sub section at http://www.tutormentorconnection.org. These point to web sites that illustrate various ways to graphically illustrate concepts. They also represent tools I'd love to apply to the work of the Tutor/Mentor Connection. Since I don't have funds to hire this expertise, I need to find partners who want a real-world model to use in demonstrating their applications and ideas.

    If any of you know of web sites that model 3-d and 4-d concept maps, please add the link on the T/MC site, or email it to me, so I can add it.

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Dec 5, 2006 2:49 pm (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re; [tutormentor] multi-dimensional maps

    I don't know of any multi-dimensional maps, unfortunately, although I know that Ted Nelson's ZigZag project is his attempt at providing navigation for an n-dimensional database.

    http://xanadu.com/zigzag/

    You might like to post this website, which gives a quick overview of some forms of visual mapping, together with a brief pitch for my own HipBone approach:

    http://www.beadgaming.com/hipdocs/02mapping.pdf

     


    Bill Snyder - Dec 5, 2006 6:52 pm (# Total: 66)
    Cambridge, Massachusetts

    examples of multi-dimensional maps of learning systems

    Charles,

    Actually, perhaps I should have used another term--yes, 4-D is difficult to imagine!  Even if it's probably what is needed to be more representative.  Okay, for an idea of how complicated the dimensions look, even as a flatland graphic, see attached slides two mini-cases.  The second frames an analysis of an initiative in the Colorado River Delta along four dimensions (as term used here): Issues (water, economy, etc.), Sectors, Change Strategies, and Places.

    This is all schematic, so not nearly GIS-like regarding places, for example.  (Thanks, Tutormentor, for your reference along those lines--impressive!)  The map here is merely to suggest parameters and analysis questions relevant when cultivating a broader learning system for public-good outcomes.

    As mentioned, the map is a place to start to identify players and begin process of convening those who want to weave the network to leverage complementary capabilities, relationships, etc. for shared public-good goals.  It's a kind of social network analysis with a learning-system framework embedded in it.

    Ther are two sllide illustrations in attached PP.  One at cross-city national level (3 dimensions); the other transnational (US-MX) on 4 dimenions.  See attached.  See "View/Notes Pages" under each slide for related commentary/analysis questions.

    Attachments:

    06.12.05 Illustrations of multi-dimensional Learning Systems - Snyder.ppt (90 KB)

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Dec 6, 2006 8:08 am (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Jason on SE Mashups this week

    A brief note --

    I just wanted to draw your attention to this passage from Jason's blog on SE this week, which seems an apt illustration of some of what we're discussing here:
      With a Web 2.0 approach to integration, this kind of entrepreneurial mash-up is certainly possible. I'm thinking of something along the lines of a Kiva + Roots of Peace + Google Maps + Flickr mash-up that let's you buy fruit from a specific farmer in Afghanistan, read about them, see where they are located and see pictures of their orchards. GlobalGiving + International Bridges To Justice that allows you to give financial aid to specific legal battles and research the issues involved. Riders for Health + Institute for OneWorld Health + Healthcare Without Harm + VillageReach working together to get the latest medicines to the most remote parts of Africa.
      Makes me look at the issues of scale in a whole new light. A bunch of small organizations working together could have a greater impact than a single large organization with a limited focus. Imagine the possibilities.
    You'll find more at http://untangledontheedge.blogspot.com/2006/12/social-entrepreneur-mash-ups.html

     


    Pamela McLean - Dec 6, 2006 12:44 pm (# Total: 66)

    Keep talking

    I'm lurking here - not feeling I need to join in because I'm well content with the points Charles and "tutor/mentor" are raising.

    I'd like to hightlight a few issues that currently interest me - but time is against me One is how networks networks with each other. Others relate to issues of bringing volunteers and techies and other "outsiders" (regarding the core content of the network) to collaborate (more because manipulating the content is their core interest). Eek very badly expressed - I'm tempted to delete it - but maybe it'll strike a chord with someone...

    I agree with Jason on SE Mashops points aboutn small organisations working together. ...

     


    tutormentor - Dec 6, 2006 6:46 pm (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Imagine the possibilities

    Charles, the mash up that Jason envisions is exactly what I'm trying to create. My focus is on volunteer-based tutoring/mentoring programs, but the network of people working with me could be anyone working to end poverty by helping kids to careers. I've demonstrated what impact one small organization can have on hundreds of similar organizations in a huge city. Imagine what would happen if dozens of similar organizations were duplicating what I do for the same goal. Imagine what would happen if this were duplicated in dozens of cities.

     


    tutormentor - Dec 7, 2006 10:28 am (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Using GIS to help charities in an entire region

    I've described ways I'm using GIS to draw support to tutor/mentor programs in Chicago. Here's a link to a group using GIS to draw holiday donations to charities in upstate New York: http://www.agishost.com/givingmap/

    I just feel that if we can make the data collection/mapping process easier to adopt and use in various places, we can take a huge step forward in sharing the work of increasing the number of people who use this information to make decisions on where to make donations of money or time.

     


    Pamela McLean - Dec 9, 2006 3:33 pm (# Total: 66)

    An example fo a network of purpose

    I recently wrote this update and explanation to someone in my network - and realised that in the "thanks are due" section I had described an example of a network of purpose. It may therefore be of interest here.

    Regarding geographical mapping - the trainers I refer to are mainly in Nigeria, Uganda and Kenya. The support network was widely scattered - I particularly remember noticing Canada, USA, somewhere in South America, and India, as well as UK and Nigeria - I would need to check the archives from 2 years ago to make a complete list.

    The email follows: (The comments to "R" were additions to an email previously circulated to others.) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    This is an update about making the Teachers Talking "No-Computer Computer Course" resources available online. The diagrams are now available plus some explanatory notes at "Cawdnet Campus". To go straight to the resources click here http://moodle.cawd.net/course/view.php?id=67 and then log on. To see them in the context of other work we are doing go to http://moodle.cawd.net/ (Cawdnet Campus) as a guest and then visit Teachers Talking.

    Thanks are due to:

    # Omo Oaiya, for taking care of the technical side of things. (R - Omo and I have met a few times - about three times in UK and once in Nigeria - usually we e-meet via Skype - for a long voice catch-up meeting. In between we usually just exchange brief typed one or two liners. He is a professional techie and has provided an implementation of Moodle for us, on his servers, so that Cawdnet Campus can happen. He gives us guidance and support too. He is a "Cawdnetter" - so no charge.)

    # Lorraine Duff for administrative support. (R- L and I have been working together now for several years as CAWD volunteers. We have only met once F2F. We used to do a lot of sending stuff via email, and using yahoo chat and the phone. We still do that, but now we have Cawdnet Campus we do lot of our work together there, in the admin and working group areas.)

    # Katie Nonyelson for the diagrams. ( R - K and I live fairly near each other, so we can meet. However we are trying to move over to more work via CCamp - like Lorraine does - so Katie can do odd bits of work with/for me after her toddler is in bed.)

    # Fantsuam Foundation (FF) for inviting me to design and present the programme in the first place, and then sorting out the logistics so the courses could happen. (I started to make a "Special thanks are due to...." list at this point, but it got ridiculously long. Thanks to everyone at FF who helped in any way, large or small.) (R - obviously work with FF is at a distance, except when I go there. Email, Yahoo chat, and CCamp admin areas all play a part)

    # Everyone who joined the Teachers Talking yahoo group in response to my call for help in developing and presenting the initial course at FF.

    (R- That was my first ever experience of setting up a yahoo group - around October 2004. I asked people I knew and then later mentioned it on a couple of lists. I didn't need a lot of people - but I did need a few - and I didn't know if anyone would join, but it got very lively, and was a great experience. I checked the membership list after about ten days, and realised we had more than a dozen members spanning four continents. I think it grew to about sixty by the time we ran the course)

    # Core members of the TT group whose creative contribution and hard work enormously influenced the subsequent shape of the TT programme. (R- These were wonderful. Special mention to Ross Gardler -techie:software development and Open Source expert - who suggested we should have a wiki and set it up for us, and then helped us to explore issues about how a wiki did/did not suit our needs and what to do about it. Also to my friend Richard who did so much to help get information from the yahoo groups to the wiki, and everyone who sent suggestions for what we should include in our wiki/information-cupboard.)

    # Everyone who has participated online to make participants feel part of "the connected community" during the Teachers Talking Online parts of the programme. (R. That was great fun. When TT course participants went on-line - the first day that many had ever seen a computer - - they joined the TT yahoo groups - and found there were people online, thousands of miles away ready to welcome them to the "connected community" of the Internet. David Hopson was part of this group.)

    # Last, but not least, everyone I'm sending this email to - because your interest in TT has encouraged me to get it on-line to share with other trainers.

    Pam

     


    tutormentor - Dec 10, 2006 4:47 am (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Good example

    Pamela's example shows how many people can work together via the Internet and face to face meetings to accomplish a purpose. Keeping this group and others working together for many years is just the next level of networking. You introduced this as something that happened a couple of years ago. Has it been on-going since then?

    I encourage you to visit this link: http://www.tutormentorexchange.net/OHATS/TMC/TMC_OHATS_page.htm . OHATS is an Organizational History and Documentation System that is intended to document actions over time to achieve a purpose. We started this in 2000. The goal is that many people document. The reality is that I've been documenting for many people. However, it's an example of many actions that are all focused on a single purpose.

    Anyone here who is working toward the same goal, could add themselves as a recorder, and be contributing actions. For instance, if Charles begins to invite people from his network to become more involved in these discussions, that would be an action. If some of the GIS people Pamela knows began to work with T/MC, that would be an action. If a group in Africa or India began to duplicate the T/MC, to map youth organizations in those nations, that would be a critical action.

    Over time the actions of a growing number of people toward a common purpose is what changes the world.

     


    tutormentor - Dec 11, 2006 1:11 pm (# Total: 66)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Keeping this discussion going

    Since this discussion is no longer featured on the home page, it will be more difficult to keep it going. One demonstration of how a network of purpose might work toward a shared goal is this:

    At http://www.tutormentorexchange.net/Partner/CC/egroups/egroups.htm I host a list of discussions, and I've added a section for Social Edge, and put in links to this discussion and other that I'm following.

    If each of you put a reference to this discussion on your own pages, or in your blogs, visitors to  your sites can be encouraged to visit this discussion. It's simple, but if many people do this, we each contribute to a common purpose.

     


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Dec 11, 2006 3:15 pm (# Total: 66)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [tutormentor] Keeping this discussion going

    Thanks, Dan.

    FWIW, There is actually a link on the SE front page, under the heading Top 10 On The Edge, item # 2 is A Network Of Purpose. Our "best" conversations go there after their alloted run.

    Tomorrow, I'll be moderating a new conversation, on priorities, so I'll be mostly posting there -- but this item will stick around for a while if we keep posting.

    Are You a Player?

    Hosted by Patrick O'Heffernan (November 2006 - Closed)

    areyouaplayerJoin fundraising expert Patrick O'Heffernan as he explores the lessons told by Alan Kelly, the brilliant strategist who helped guide Oracle in its successful battle with IBM for server supremacy. You may be a player without realizing it.

    Are you a player? We all are, according to The Elements of Influence, a new book by Alan Kelly, and we need to learn the games we are playing and their rules. Kelly works in the for-profit arena, but is keenly attuned to the NPO world and wrote this book with both in mind (Full disclosure: my wife was VP of his firm a few years ago).

    In The Elements of Influence, Kelly lays out the plays for winning strategies in games you may not have realized you are in. He calls playmaking what we all do in our negotiations, advocacy, and even managing our staffs - a discipline in which you know and understand the moves you use to get what you want, and that others use either with you or against you to get what they want.

    What Kelly outlines is not game theory or negotiation techniques, it is a handbook for how to cooperate, negotiate, advocate and win… and know exactly what you are doing at all times because you know and use specific "plays".

    Kelly lays out the Playmakers Standard a carefully crafted table of 26 plays - with names like The Pause, The Bear Hug, The Disco - in three categories and eight subcategories, and explains each one through examples of how profits and non-profits have used them successfully and unsuccessfully.

    For instance, Kelly describes the use of the Disco play by Johnson and Johnson in 1982 when cyanide-laced Tylenol tablets were found to have killed seven people. In the Disco a player agrees to concede an element of its case to preserve or advance its overall agenda, and disarms critics or enemies. J&J accepted responsibility, pulled 31 million bottles from the shelves, and blazed the trail for the now-standard tamper-proof containers. The Disco cost J&J millions, but it preserved future revenue in the billions and protected the company's good name while quieting regulators and critics.

    Other companies would have used a Deflect or a Red Herring - plays intended to shift attention, or a Filter - a play to confuse the issue, or even a Jam - a move to handle it quietly and keep information from the press and the government. Kelly notes that the US Catholic Church, when confronted with sexual abuse charges, tried all of these unsuccessfully and ended up wounding its reputation and its finances.

    After reading the book, I set it down and said to myself: That is what I have been doing all of these years; if I had only known I could have done it much better.

    Much of the book is based on the for-profit sector, and most of the stories are about companies, not organizations, but the techniques work well -- we have all been using them without the kind of understanding that Kelly brings.

    I am adopting this system and would love to hear about your systems for creating and executing strategies.

    Jump in the conversation.


    Jeff.Mowatt - Nov 29, 2006 2:22 am (# Total: 11)
    P-CED

    Black belts of influence

    A phrase from the review of this book which struck a chord, remembering first, the words of author Laurie Lee, in describing the influence which disarms by being itself disarmed.

    Some years later, as the web opened up new horizons. I stumbled across a real black belt of influence, who by some incredible coincidence happened to have the same name as me, finding much more in common too.

    http://www.jeffmowatt.com/articles/humilityadvantage.html

    So, yes, in many ways I've made the same discovery.


    Jeff.Mowatt - Nov 29, 2006 9:19 am (# Total: 11)
    P-CED

    On further reflection

    Patrick, Something striking about the examples above is that they describe a defence strategy for dealing with a flawed product or reputation. Surely the best game play, is the no game?

    By that I mean ensuring that the starting point is one of integrity, the people we return to because we recogmise the value they offer. Game play, only entering the negotiation process at the point where defence is necessary. From the sound of it, Oracle and IBM started with the zero sum game, ie the world isn't big enough for two database servers.

    A couple of years back, just before I joined him, my colleague faced a real zero sum game finding his project blocked by corruption. An ultimatum was delivered £4m in personal tribute or a foreign goverment minister would block the project.

    Naturally he objected, pointing out that the project was intended to help people in poverty, not the minister himself.

    Countering this, the minister announced that my colleague was no longer significant, he'd deal direct with US sources and just go around him "It's not your money, so you have no power"

    That's where he miscalculated, when my colleague pointed out that it was indeed his money, his and every other US taxpayers, Furthermore having taken the precaution to copyright his project plan, he'd enforce his IP rights, ensuring no agency dare touch it rather than let him profit at the expense of his own people.

    Leaving the minister with a well know colloquial expression suggesting he perform an infeasibile act upon himself, he observed the man actually banging his head against the wall in rage and frustration.

    Two years later, a democratic revolution, gave the opportunity to finally remove the minister from office. Nobody profited from this zero sum game, at least not yet.

    Surely then, game play only arises from a position of anticipated defeat? If our "opponent" invokes such a strategy, we might well consider they are in doing so, exposing a weakness.

    I remember with some amusement when first travelling in this Post-Soviet world and for the first time, detergents were being advertised on television. The response was not as anticipated, in a country well acquainted with propaganda. Elderly women were in uproar - Look at this terrible stuff on TV, it's so bad they have to advertise it! In retrospect, a profound observation on how we are far more readily decieved by our would be manipulators.


    Alan Kelly - Nov 29, 2006 1:20 pm (# Total: 11)
    Author, The Elements of Influence

    Comment from the Author

    Patrick -- You're right, you've always been a playmaker.

    What this work amounts to is a descriptive system of what influencers of all stripes do, either as reflex or according to plan.  The certain breakthrough is that it isolates the influencer's moves and counter-moves into 25 irreducibly simple strategems (what I call "plays") and then places these into the first useable strategy framework.  Now we know, for example, that a simple Trial Balloon is a testing play, well to the left on the playmaking spectrum and, correspondingly, that a Crazy Ivan is an attacking strategy on the far right.  (See http://www.plays2run.com/table.php)

    There is an important predictive component to this system, too.  For every one of the plays in The Playmaker's Table there are recommendations for decoding that play and, even better, for countering it.  If I run a Filter on you, you're often well advised to run a Mirror on me.

    Insofar as my own experience is rooted in corporate games (e.g., Oracle vs. IBM), plays are run on both sides of the collaborative/competitive spectrum and, certainly, well outside the for-profit world.  Think of the Pope this week as he tip-toed into Muslim Turkey.  His play was a "Recast," an attempt to morph his ill-advised comments of last September into something more akin to a diplomatic bridge.  Watch him, now, as he runs "Screens" to advance his agenda through symbols...not words.

    On game theory and negotiation, you might think of The Playmaker's Standard as a welcome interpreter to some pretty balky disciplines.  Plays can explain the strategies that players choose whilst in their respective games of chicken, prisoners dilemma, zero-sum, etc.  That's a breakthrough for the frustrated mathematicians and economists who don't quite understand what it is the rest of us don't understand about game theory.

    Thanks for the good words.  Keep running those plays.

    Alan Kelly



    Patrick O'Heffernan - Nov 29, 2006 10:06 pm (# Total: 11)

    i thought i recognized the name, mowatt

    But I guess you are not the Canadian environmental writer! But very good points. I love the story of detergent on Soviet TV. As to your observations, I will look to the author for a reply. Alan??


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Nov 29, 2006 10:11 pm (# Total: 11)

    Alan's response

    The Pope's visit to Turkey does respond to Jeff's question on tactics, but what about the underlying qauestion - what if the game is not as we see it. What if,for example, there IS room in the world for two server manufacturers (there is), or if the best play for the Pope is to revise his thinking and not make the comments in the first place? Can a focus on playmaking obscure the nature of the game? Alan??


    Jeff.Mowatt - Nov 30, 2006 1:21 am (# Total: 11)
    P-CED

    Farley, the wolf man..

    That's who you're thinking about Patrick, Something of a social entreprenuer in his own right, having made a compelling case for the wolf in the scheme of things to later influence government policy towards hunting them in what was then the Soviet Union.

    Now the Oracle ascent has professional interest for me. I worked for Honeywell in the 70's and 80's finding a niche specialty in the interface between structured (Bachman) databases and relational which came from the development of MRDS under the MIT backed Multics development. Never met Ted Codd, though his protege Chris Date once dropped into the office for a chat. So this is an area I have some grounding in. This, IBM's DB2 and others, were at the time mainframe offerings and Oracle to their credit, saw the way forward in porting this concept to emerging hardware platforms. Back then, we sold bundled hardware and software packages and having an RDBMS component was part of the bundle.

    It was Larry Ellison buzzing around in a MIG that brought something else to mind, which was put into print in a book called "The Wrong Stuff". It described the discovery that the culture of selecting test pilots for their qualities of independent and macho personality was in fact mistaken. Too many people were being killed because these personalities lacked the capacity for the collaborative effort that was needed to preserve human life.

    This then is my assertion, that in business we still need to tackle the "Wrong Stuff", because just like Farley's wolf, there is scope for all of us to prosper, My colleague and now I, tackle this head on in in our condemnation of unrestrained oligarchy in the former Soviet Union, the macho zero sum game which is now so out of control, it threatens us directly (eg recent activities involving Polonium-210).

    This oligarchy, which has no regard for human life, is to my mind, the ultimate consequence of "Wrong Stuff" business, For me, it is diametrically opposed to Mohammed Yunus's endorsement of the Social Business Enterprise, a philosophy which I'd align myself with completely and for me a must do in future Social Edge commentary.


    Alan Kelly - Nov 30, 2006 5:17 am (# Total: 11)
    Author, The Elements of Influence

    Too much focus on playmaking?

    To Patrick's question...can playmaking get in the way?  Can it obscure judgment and progress?  Yes, but only if it's viewed (and used) as weaponry.  Good playmakers know, however, that strategy is as much a sword as a shield and that it can be used to massage as much as to tear.  In The Elements of Influence, I don't prescribe these tendencies.  I only describe them.

    Look at the subclasses of playmaking (http://www.plays2run.com/table.php): Detach, Test, Divert, Frame, Freeze, Lure, Press, Attack.  Collaborators tend to run Testing and Framing plays (like, for example, on a prospective donor).  Blood-sport competitors tend to run Pressing and Attacking plays (like, for example, on a House Bill).

    And what of the zero-sum game?  Can there be muliple winners?  Marketplaces decide that question, not the playmaking system, but my own view is that any player in any marketplace should want and welcome competition.  Without it, there's less opportunity to create relevance and topicality.  And without these, there's less opportunity to prosper.  So, personally, I always look for counterparts.  They can be complementary or competitive, but it's tough to run even Testing plays if noone's paying attention.

    However you may approach your market -- whatever your philosophy, ground rules or circumstance -- I believe that all of us, as influencers, are "always" running plays.  We're also the target of plays.  You might often run a strategic "Pass" so as to take on another opportunity.  You might run a careful "Pause" so as to let a market build.  These are as "left-sided" as one can be on the playmaking spectrum.  But, even then, you're in the business of playmaking because your strategies are being employed with purposeful effect.

    Can anyone think of a marketplace where strategy and influence don't abound?  I think they go hand-in-hand, so best we have our own periodic table to guide us.



    melomara - Nov 30, 2006 11:47 am (# Total: 11)
    Corporate Coach, Innovation Leader

    What about playing a Bigger Game?

    Interesting categorization of plays (sometimes intentional, and sometimes not) that we often see in business.  I have not read the book, but I would pose the question - which play serves the player, and the Bigger Game they are playing?  Here's a link to a nifty little model - called the "Bigger Game" model, that I have used extensively.  I suspect that all social entrepreneurs and conscious capitalists will immediately find clarity by looking at their current "game" (e.g. what they are "up to") through the lens of this Bigger Game model.  What is your compelling purpose?  What comfort zones are you leaving?  What are your gulps?  What bold action (play) will best serve the game now?  What play will most resonate with potential clients or allies?

    Bigger Games are everywhere.  I think that the Bigger Game model helps give context to the process of choosing your play. 



    Patrick O'Heffernan - Dec 1, 2006 12:29 pm (# Total: 11)

    Great Link!

    I checked out the Bigger Game model and found it immeidately useful in another project. I recommend it to everyone. It does exactly what you say...provides context for the game you are playing


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Dec 1, 2006 12:34 pm (# Total: 11)

    The Wrong Stuff

    Jeff, I think that the wronjg stuff model actually applies to a lot of business promtional practices. Business is seen as - and often is - a highly competitive 0-sum game. But in the information world, collaboration and partnerships bring power, and the macho types don't do this well. Women do, which may be why more of them are moving into senior postions in the high tech industries. Also, the wrong stuff tyupe seem to dominate the miniong, logging and extraction induistries where their job is seen as "dominating nature". And look where that has gotten us.


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Dec 4, 2006 9:11 pm (# Total: 11)

    thaks alan

    I think a lot of pauses are in order, to ask those questions .

    Nov 01, 2006

    Web Video for the Social Benefit Sector

    Hosted by Patrick O'Heffernan (October 2006 - Closed)

    For-profit sites like YouTube.com, googlevideo.com, current.tv and Jumpcut.com are collecting thousands of videos every day and making news. Join Patrick O'Heffernan in learning how your social benefit organization can benefit from that trend.

    About six months ago, I launched a non-profit website that enables visitors to upload videos, comment on and rate them, and engage in online forums about the American elections. The site, ThePeopleChoose, is linked to the non-profit television channel, Link TV, which will broadcast the best videos that have been uploaded. My experience tells me that there is opportunity here for NPOs.

    • I learned that there is an appeal for some foundations to experiment with this new form of creative relationship building and communication.

    • I learned that private companies in this field are new enough that they welcome non-profit partners because they see they traffic enhancement and branding potential.

    • I learned that online promotion is necessary to build traffic and that blogs are likely the best way to do it.

    • I learned that it can excite an NPO's staff and board and raise morale to see their work in video, especially video that others have gone to the trouble to shoot and post.

    Why do it?

    1. Video can deliver unique impact and reality about your work. By asking people to upload video, you avoid production costs and achieve a powerful authenticity. Your appeal to donors and funders will go up as they see and get engaged in your work and even upload videos of their own. You will build relationships with film schools, local high school and college classes where the faculty are assigning video projects, and with new foundations that found you through video.

    2. Video websites appeal to young people – a source of new members and volunteers. They also showcase new talent, like the students and volunteers who upload videos and text to ThePeopleChoose.

    4. The technology is widespread and the cost is low if you partner with a private sector video site – a good way to build a corporate relationship that can grows into other things.

    3. Video sites can build relationships with users and commenters.

    How do you do it?

    1. Unless your organization has large amount of server space and bandwidth, form a partnership with a video upload company. This is a win-win for them because your members and promotion will bring more traffic to their site, increasing ad revenues, and they provide the space, upload applications and bandwidth to you at no cost.

    2. Have your IT person or a contract programmer add a "new clips" section to your site's back end. This is a site which allows your staff to grab videos uploaded to your partner's site and post on you own so they open theirs, preferably in Flash.

    3. Put a button or a box on your home page that asks people to upload their video and takes them to a page where they agree to your terms of service, and then sends them to a page on your partner's site that has your logo on it where they actually upload the video. Your staff then reviews it to make sure it meets your terms of service (TOS) and rules, like no profanity or copyrighted material. (In your TOS, let them keep the copyright to their videos, which they license to you at no charge – take a look at the TOS's on some of the upload sites and then have your lawyer or a volunteer attorney draft yours.)

    Questions? Comments? Jump in the conversation.




    scottbeale50 - Oct 3, 2006 2:08 pm (# Total: 37)
    Scott Beale, Founder, Atlas Corps www.atlascorps.org

    Our CSO has started to use video too

    Thanks Patrick for a great topic!

    I am starting a new citizen sector organization (NPO, NGO) that takes rising NGO leaders from the developing world to volunteer for one year in the U.S.  Since this is a new model of international service I decided to upload a video of myself describing the organization.  It does not look as fancy as I would like, but I am pleased with the start.

    See: http://www.atlascorps.org/about/where.htm

    Or: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeVra0s2lbY

    I am using a simple logitech camera and a free windows movie maker software.  It really is easy!  I have a lot of work to go before it looks very professional.

    Here is my question.  Do most people have and know how to use video cameras to post video replies?  Are there bandwidth problems with these videos?  And, is there a "best" video site to use?

    Thanks!

    Scott Beale, Executive Director, Atlas Service Corps

    http://www.atlascorps.org  



    SusanE - Oct 4, 2006 8:00 am (# Total: 37)
    Footpath Pictures, Inc.

    Use of Video Online

    After volunteering in Peru with CARE my husband and I were inspired to use our skills as video producers to start a small company dedicated to telling the stories of non-profit organizations. Our company, Footpath Pictures (www.footpathpictures.com), has been working with non-profits for the past several years and we've seen tremendous success using video as a fundraising tool. And although portions of the video are often used online, generally, the video is used as part of a presentation with donors or the main event of a fundraising gala. That personal "live" connection of an event or a one on one meeting seems to me to be critical in fundraising. It seems video, for all of it's strengths can't replace the relationships that must form in successful fundraising. So I guess my first question for the discussion is, are there examples of successful online fundraising campaigns that use video as the primary call to action? I know I've been moved by video online, and I've certainly sent friends links to videos I felt were important. But I've never donated to a cause after watching a video online, I don't think-other than political campaigns, I've ever been asked. There must be someone using it successfully and I would love to see how it's working.

    Second, is something that we at Footpath have started to focus more on and that is reaching out beyond the standard fundraising events to the general public- raising awareness. We have so many new possibilities emerging every day thanks to the web and ever expanding broadcast opportunities, film festivals, etc. We've taken a proactive approach to developing this part of our business by finding partners with complex stories that will resonate with a broader audience and then developing a communications strategy that includes both a fundraising video (about the organization) as well as a longer documentary on the issues (not the organization) that can be shared through a variety of avenues. We believe that most foundations will actually be more interested in raising awareness than simply funding a marketing video about the organization. By producing the two programs simultaneously, we can make the most of our production time. We're big sticklers on efficiency. That applies to production but also to the use of the videos once they are complete. We want our partners to get the most bang: money, support, awareness for their buck. And we personally want our documentaries to make a measurable difference. These stories can move mountains, they truly can. Having the will and the insight to raise money to tell the stories takes a lot of faith and belief in their power. It's not hard for me, because I've seen these stories raise literally millions of dollars and change the perception of an organization from the inside out. Patrick, you are correct, and I've often been surprised by the non-profit's reaction to their own story. Sometimes a video gives them a new perspective on their work and the importance of it. It can be very uplifting to the entire staff.

    Scott, I watched your video and I thought it was a great approach to giving visitors to your website a sense of your organization in a very personal way. I will be sure to pass this idea along to the non-profits we work with. Especially when you are working internationally, making a personal connection like this is essential. Thank you for sharing it!

    Best, Susan Ellis Footpath Pictures Inc.


    tutormentor - Oct 8, 2006 6:55 am (# Total: 37)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Youth leadership enhanced with video

    We've had a small video program  in place for about 10 years. It's aim has been to connect innercity youth with mentors who work in the communications, video, film industries. There are many benefits from such a program and one is that the material youth create can tell of their involvement in a NPO and invite others to participate. Until YouTube there was no way to distribute the video effectively to a large audience.

    We put one of our videos on YouTube recently at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuPfJcCEpsk

    People who view this can see how teens are rapping their experiences and the expectations of Cabrini Connections.  This is just one of many videos that have been created over the years. You can view clips of others at http://www.cabriniconnections.net/IYP/Videos.html

    One of my goals is to create a network of youth arts/video programs, using central Internet web sites as interchanges to connect viewers, volunteers and donors with hundreds of youth organizations, and using the videos created by youth and volunteers as the entertainment and advertising that draws more and more people to this sector.

    In the Links SECTION of http://www.tutormentorconnection.org/ there is a sub section on arts/mentoring where people with youth video programs can submit a web link. That's the first part of our own effort to create a web library of such programs.

     

     



    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 10, 2006 11:28 am (# Total: 37)

    Scott....good site. Answers

    Scott It is amazing just how many people have cameras and know how to use them...however,most of these people are under 30. But the plunging prices of cameras, the rising simplicity of USB and Firewire connections are expanding both the number and the age range. Several million peole do it every week at YouTube; we get 25,000 hits a week at ThePeopleChoose, and other sites are also growing.

    One thing to watch out for is cell phone video. Not all sites accept cell phone video as it is a different format (jumpcut.com does not, as of now). Since many people shoot video with cell phones, you may have to post instructions on how to convert cell phone video to .mov or other usefull file formats.

    However, the real key is generating the videos...giving people a reason to do it. In our case, we can offer to show their video on a national TV network, which is cost free for us and a boost for them. Contests are an even better way to do it. The blog Crooks and Liars <http://www.crooksandliars.com/> is now running a contest for liberal videos. Current offers TV time; Sunlight Foundation and moveon.org ran contests for the best ads, with Sunlight offering cash prizes. You might consider teaming up with a corporate sponsor to offer a prize consistent with your mission and their products.

    As to the best video site, tht is raidly changing as the industry matures (recall that YouTube has been around les than 2 years). I like jumpcut.com. Even though they were bought by Yahoo, they seem to be staying independent and open to the non-profit sector. They are good at promotion and understand the value of co-promotion with NPOs.

    With YouTube's purchase by Google for $1.65 billion, there will be advertising and possibly some policy changes at YouTube. However, given Google's great reputation and its Google ads progrm, YouTube may be a good source. For the time being, I am staying with Jumpcut.

    Good site, incidently.


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 10, 2006 11:44 am (# Total: 37)

    Using videos for fund raising

    Susan, I love your multi-use approach to video. Thatis how Ted Turner got riach - he took each piece of film and used it in many different ways - CNN, Hedline News, CNN International, affilliate feeds, specials, etc. etc.-- the same newsfilm, different audiences and advertisers.

    I don't have an example of a video itself generating money, but I have a great deal of experience that confirms that the intimacy and immediacy of a video can provide the focus for an ask and re-inforce the points of your presentation. I find videos especially useful in house parties. One tht I sponosred at my home for a small foundation funding sustainable development agricultural projects in the Peruvian Amazon (email me for a contact) used controlled lighting, sound recorded in the Amazon, and film shot in the village, to enthrall an audience....and the group made its donations goal.

    However, having said that, I note that we are entering a new environment in which our members and supporters and visitors make the videos and the power is not all inthe picture, it is in the communication and the relationships.

    To my knowledge ThePeopleChoose is the first non-profit site to launch user-generated video as a community building process in a non profit environment. We don't know yet if we are successful, or even exactly what the metrics are we should use to determine success. Given that video uploaders may be mostly young - a demographic that does not donate a lot - it is not clear yet how this dynamci will impact fund riasing.

    But, as you and others travel in developing countries where you work and you and those you travel with - especially your donors - post their videos, you may develop an audience that will become a donoar audience. Again, this is all very new and we are all experimenting....we are all social entrepreneurs here.


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 10, 2006 11:51 am (# Total: 37)

    Tutormentor...welcome. Check out the Film Arts Foundation

    I love the program you are describing, and the emergence of user-generated sites makes them not only posible, but can give them national impact. You might upload any videos from your program to www.thepeoplechoose2006.org if they talk about policy.

    You might also check out the Film Arts Foundation in SF <http://www.filmarts.org/services.php>. They have 6000 members around the country who communicate on FAF forums and may be able to point you to resources like screening rooms, editing suites, classes, etc. in Chicago for your program,


    kanter - Oct 10, 2006 3:20 pm (# Total: 37)

    Thanks for this great topic

    Patrick:

    My question is: Should nonprofits be concerned with ownership of their content and what is the best way to become educated about user agreements?

    I wrote a roundup of nonprofits and vlogging about a month ago http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2006/09/nonprofits_and_.html

    I came across an interesting blog post the other day:

    Participatory Media: Who Owns the Work You Share? http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2006/10/participatory_m.html

    That was before the Google/YouTube announcement.

    Makes me want to add question about how concerned we need to be with ownership of our content?

    Scott:

    I wrote a brief roundup of video hosts here: http://www.netsquared.org/tags/video-vlog-vlogging-youtube-dogoodertv-channelg-nptechtv-ourmedia-witness There's a link to an article that compares hosts.

    Also, TechSoup published an article on video hostings http://www.techsoup.org/learningcenter/internet/page5876.cfm?cg=searchterms&sg=video

    I think the "best" video host -- depends on what your strategy is, who want to reach, what your concerns are about ownership of content, etc.


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 10, 2006 3:45 pm (# Total: 37)

    ownership of copyright

    We thought long and hard about this and finally decided not to own copyrights. In our case, the videos would not likely have a life beyond the elections, so there was no reason for us to hold onto the copyright. We were also told by one of our partners, that they could not let us upload video unless they kept the copyright because some of those videos would be needed for court cases.

    It will depend on what you want to do with the vide4os. YouTube keeps the copyright, some others don't. Think thorugh how long any video you receive will be interesting, to whom and for what purpose. Then check with a lawyer.


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 10, 2006 3:50 pm (# Total: 37)

    best video sites

    Today the upload world is YouTube and the itty bitty ants nibbling on it. However, I suspect that just like The People Choose is taking a segment of the market, others will come along and take segments...in other words, the upload world will eventually look like the cable world of 500 channels, some with only 100,000 viewers and others with 2 million and few with 5 million.

    What has not yet ocurred in a big way is the non-profit entry into the upload world. LinkTV ws able to move into the TV world as a non profit, get into 28 million homes and keep a respectable audience of of 5 -6 million a week. Small, non-profit upload sites will do the same when they find their nieches.


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 10, 2006 5:21 pm (# Total: 37)

    very helpful blog

    Evefryone should check out Beth's blog: very useful


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 10, 2006 5:30 pm (# Total: 37)

    thanks Beth...your blog is very useful!!



    scottbeale50 - Oct 11, 2006 6:41 am (# Total: 37)
    Scott Beale, Founder, Atlas Corps www.atlascorps.org

    thanks for the feedback

    Patrick, thanks for an interesting conversation, Beth for the information and everyone for their feedback.

    I like the idea of giving people an incentive (or at the very least directly soliciting video submissions) to get people to send in videos.  I have to imagine with the incredible popularity of blogs that video blogs and communication is going to be twice as big in the next 2 years.

    We still have a long ways to go at Atlas Service Corps (http://www.atlascorps.org) but especially since we are an international nonprofit with an international audience, we are excited about the possibility that video provides.

    In fact, my next initiative is to make a 90 second Atlas Corps video in Spanish and then invite people to submit videos about Atlas Corps in other languages to put online, as a solid way that demonstrates our global orientation.

    Thanks!

    Scott Beale

    scott@atlascorps.org

    http://www.atlascorps.org



    tutormentor - Oct 11, 2006 8:40 am (# Total: 37)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    How to stand out in a crowd

    I think that the rush to praise YouTube for its potential needs to be slowed with some thinking of how one gets his/her video viewed out ot the millions of other videos competing for limited viewer minutes.

    At the same time, one needs to consider why you're posting the video, and who you want to look at it, and what response you want.

    I post a video in YouTube for the same reason I poste a message here. I'm broadcasting to a very wide audiennce looking for people who already share the same concerns and vision I have, who are also looking for people like me who can be collaborators and partners in a shared strategy of helping kids living in high poverty areas.

    I recognize that each post is like buying a lotter ticket since I'm competing with so many others for attention.

    Thus, while I post, I also seek discussion, that might innovate ways a few people with common goals, my work as a team in an environment such as YouTube, to increase the potential that our message will be heard by the people we hope will see it and respond.

    I think that this advise would be practical for anyone with a vision of using mass media like the Internet to draw support to a cause or a single organization.


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 11, 2006 9:45 am (# Total: 37)

    Spanish Video

    Scott What a great idea. Could you send me an embed code for your existing video, if you have one, or email to me as an attachment when it is done. I will post it on my blog on TPC and here as an example of using video to improve international communication and boost social entrepreneurs.


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 11, 2006 9:51 am (# Total: 37)

    using YouTube

    YouTube does have a good search and video relationship process, but vidoes posted on YT need promotion elsewhere or they will get lost in the 100 million videos downloaded each day. This is why niche sites like ThePeopleChoose can be successful - as they are promoted to their niche audiences they will gain traction adn become the go-to site for that topic in video. This is an opportunity for non-profits. Once an NPO develops traffic, a site can run associated ads for other NPOs and businesses that serve NPOs and generate revenue.


    kanter - Oct 11, 2006 1:09 pm (# Total: 37)

    thanks ..

    Patrick,

    Thanks for your kind words.

    I see your point about the copyright and think your advice is good. As with anything, it requires some discussion,thinking, and strategy development.

    It's good that there are a variety of video hosts and while YouTube retains copyright, a few of the others allow you to choose a creative commons license. Some organizations might refer a host that offers that flexibility, although the audience potential YouTube might be worth considering.


    kanter - Oct 11, 2006 7:07 pm (# Total: 37)

    I've done a summary of the conversation ...

    just because it has been so fabulous and I learned so much!

    http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2006/10/more_nonprofits.html

    What struck me was that Patrick's take is slightly different from what I've seen so far from nonprofits doing videocasting - the whole participatory media piece. It's kind of shift in thinking and I wonder what it would take to help make that shift - in order to adopt this approach .. well, just some ramblings.


    tutormentor - Oct 12, 2006 7:56 am (# Total: 37)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Blogging for a purpose

    Beth has written a great summary of this discussion, and added additional information on her blog. This illustrates how people from different places can work together to share information, build understanding, and create a focus on a specific issue.

    In late November I'm going to be hosting a one-day tutor/mentor conference in Chicago, where the challenges facing non-school tutor/mentor programs will be discussed, and where ideas on collaboration to overcome challenges will be proposed.

    I would like to find some bloggers, video people, and forum hosts, like Social Edge, who'd like to work with me on this, with a goal of following the face to face discussion in Chicago, with a variety of internet events that increase the number of people who enter the discussion, and impact tutoring/mentoring in every city in the country. We did something like this in May during the spring conference. By doing this in December, my hope is to effect year end philanthropy going toward organizations who offer non-school tutoring/mentoring and various forms of youth development.

    If anyone reading this is interested email me at tutormentor2@earthlink.net


    scottbeale50 - Oct 12, 2006 8:18 am (# Total: 37)
    Scott Beale, Founder, Atlas Corps www.atlascorps.org

    Using Video in Multiple Languages

    Patrick, per your request here is the Spanish video.  In the coming weeks I plan to do videos in Hindi, French, Chinees and other languages (I wont do them, but people I know will).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS7j4NRGVXQ

    Here is the improved English video I just made:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8IDrCOLYg4

    And for those who have not seen it yet, here is my organization's site:

    http://www.atlascorps.org

    Please feel free to share with others.



    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 14, 2006 9:26 am (# Total: 37)

    thank you..how do you....

    go about doing the translations. Do you have mulitlingual staff? Do you use a service? Do you also adjust for cultural differences?


    plamb - Oct 15, 2006 2:59 pm (# Total: 37)
    Paul Lamb

    making money off of video?

    Some sites like Revver allow you the optiong of making money off of your videos. In Revver's case, for example, they insert an advertisement at the end of your video and everytime someone clicks on it you get paid (a small amount, similar to Google's Adsense).

    Patrick, do you or other's have experience with this and other ways to make a profit off of video and not just use it as a communication or promotional tool?

    thanks,

    Paul



    plamb - Oct 15, 2006 3:15 pm (# Total: 37)
    Paul Lamb

    New Technique for video interviews - Rosetimes

    For those organizations interested in conducting video interviews with people in separate locations, check out Rosetimes. With only a standard video camera, a broadband connection and a VOIP tool (like Skype or Gizmo), you can create a free video interview with superb sound quality that doesn't require the interviewer or interviewee to be in the same place - they just both need to have this equipment on either end. Even better, in the final product both interviewer and interviewee appear in the same frame.

    Perhaps something that Social Edge should consider using?

    Cheers,

     

    Paul



    scottbeale50 - Oct 15, 2006 8:31 pm (# Total: 37)
    Scott Beale, Founder, Atlas Corps www.atlascorps.org

    multilingual videos

    We have multilingual volunteers and staff.

    In addition, our next step is to ask other volunteers to send in 90 second videos that explain Atlas Service Corps (our nonprofit) and then we will post those videos online.

    thanks, scott

    www.atlascorps.org



    Keely Stevenson - Oct 17, 2006 5:16 am (# Total: 37)
    Acumen Fund

    useful

    Hey there,
    This has been a really useful discussion- thanks.  I am doing a fellowship whereby we spend most of the year working directly with organizations in India, Tanzania, Kenya, South Africa and Pakistan.  One of the elements of our work is putting together a case study via video as well as a general short video of the social enterprises we are working with.  I appreciate all your ideas here.

    Keely



    scottbeale50 - Oct 17, 2006 8:01 am (# Total: 37)
    Scott Beale, Founder, Atlas Corps www.atlascorps.org

    Congrats Keely

    The Acumen Fund Fellowship is very prestigious.  Congrats on the good work you must be doing!  It would be great to hear more about your experience and eventually see the video you put together. I can be reached at scott@atlascorps.org.

    Sincerely,

    Scott Beale

    Atlas Corps

    www.atlascorps.org

    scott@atlascorps.org



    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 17, 2006 8:45 am (# Total: 37)

    Revver

    Paul I have not had any experience with Revver or with sites that tag videos with ads. I have been at social gatherings recently in Silicon Valley in which the YouTube sale to Google was discussed and the one topic that everyone seems to agree on is that this would be deadly for that community. I think - without any research - that targeted, Google-type ads on the page would work, but tagging videos could turn off people. As a method of social entrepreneurship, I would look for ways to monetize a video site that develops strong trafffic, but not by tagging videos


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 17, 2006 8:47 am (# Total: 37)

    Rosetimes

    Great idea. I will suggst it to Victor (Victor, consider it suggested) as a anoher way to build a community


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 17, 2006 8:50 am (# Total: 37)

    online Atlas posting

    Outstanding. Be sure to promote them: One trick we sued at the peopel choose is to create a proomotion video, post it on Youtube and tag it with the names of candidates and other tags that we expected folks looking for information on elections to search with. When they searched, our promotion video and url came up and sendt traffic to our site. Since there are limits on how many tags you can use, we had our volunteers post it with different ip addresses and different tags


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 17, 2006 8:52 am (# Total: 37)

    Keely...send your video

    When you have the videos done, can you email them to me to post here. A .mov or quicktime format might work best


    tutormentor - Oct 17, 2006 10:28 am (# Total: 37)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Connecting donors and volunteers to non profits

    Hi Keely,

    It's great to see the good work you're doing. In past conversations with you and others that I've met on-line, I've recognized a need for local leaders to create non profit hubs, that collect information about local organizations doing similar work in the same geography. For instance, I host a conference in Chicago and have had several people from Africa and South America email me asking for Visa help so they could attend. I've always suggested that a better way to spend the thousands of dollars it would cost to come to the US for my two day event would be to create a local network and hold a conference that connects local supporters at the same time as we hold our event in Chicago. By creating on-line forums like Social Edge, we can connect the participants of each event with each other.

    While I'm sure people are building aggregators and web hubs, I'm not sure that this is being done with the narrow focus of connecting youth organizations/supporters, or video-creating/arts/mentoring organizations.

    In each of the countries that you visit I hope you'll plant the seed that this can, and should be done. The http://www.tutormentorconnection.org web provides some ideas of what a hub might do to draw programs together, and to draw donors and volunteers to all of the programs listed in a Program Locator that should be part of each hub.

    As an intermediary between the Acumen Fund and these local leaders, it's possible that you could help provide the financial support needed to get such a strategy launched in the countries you are visiting. I'd be happy to offer suggestions of the opportunities and benefits. A YouTube strategy, such as we're discussing here, would be a great way to draw attention to each hub, and the organizations represented in each hub.


    Cordelia Salter-Nour - Oct 18, 2006 8:00 am (# Total: 37)
    FightHunger.org

    Fight Hunger Viral Video Contest

    Hello everyone

    We're hoping to put all this great theory into practice!

    FightHunger.org is a division of the UN World Food Programme set up to help end child hunger by 2015 which is part of the first Millenium Development Goal

    We've just launched a viral video contest and are looking for a short, upbeat video about ending child hunger. Have a look at this link:

    http://www.fighthunger.org/contest

    The winner will get the opportunity to visit and film a World Food Programme School Feeding project in a developing country.

    Any help that anyone can give spreading the word about this contest would be most appreciated

    Thanks!

    Cordelia

    www.FightHunger.org

    Ending child hunger by 2015


    kanter - Oct 18, 2006 9:29 am (# Total: 37)

    Speaking of Interviews ...

    I did a write up about the VotersVoices project -part of what they are doing is aggregating voter generated content via tags -- including on YouTube http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2006/10/screencast_of_t_1.html

    I got inspired and did an interview via YouTube in video with Steve Cliff: http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2006/10/my_youtube_inte.html

    Steve talks about the need to have the ability to do your video capture online versus upload. He also shares six great tips for community tagging projects. I also transcribed the interview over at my blog.

    There is also metacafe.com - a start up that is planning to pay for videos.

    Cordelia: I blogged about your content over at my blog and netsquared http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2006/10/fight_hunger_vi.html

    Plus I sent the info to the videoblogging community listserv


    tutormentor - Oct 18, 2006 12:08 pm (# Total: 37)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Collaborating to build involvement

    Beth, Patrick, others,

    On November 30 I plan to hold a one-day event in Chicago with a theme of Collaboration and Capacity Building. At http://www.tutormentorconference.bigstep.com/generic25.html you can read my goals.

    I'm posting this message to ask you if you know of a blogger, or a video group, that is using a blog to build collaboration and focus on youth serving organizations in an entire city or geographic region, who might want to be part of a panel that illustrates how technology can be used to build support for a cause.

    I'm also looking for people who might blog this topic in December, or create a video exchange, similar to the Non-profit blog exchange, with the goal of building increased donor visibility for youth organizations in the weeks leading up to Dec. 31.

    If you can help me spread the word we can demonstrate the power of our ideas by putting them in practice.


    chrismacrae - Oct 18, 2006 5:25 pm (# Total: 37)

    cataloguing videos for world citizens

    You can spend a heck of a lot of time both searching for videos and watching them. The more so the deeper the social edge learning in our view. So we invite people to tell us their favourite social edge videos so we can list links to them in one place http://worldcitizen.tv/_wsn/page5.html 

    We're interested in building sub-banks for different audiences- how for example do we convince journalists at the BBC that they should be focusing mush more on sustainability debates? Or how do we connect video and print around the idea that travel guides to sustsinability heroes need to become as popular as  to hotels if every locality and socila network is to unite and participate.

    http://guidemakers.net   http://herstory.tv  http://grameen.tv

    I see a great future in open cataloguing sites but leaving others to make the videos



    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 19, 2006 8:34 am (# Total: 37)

    Tutormentor....youth video blogs

    I know that Music for America is starting to do this, but for poltical organizing purposes. Friendster is now running a video contest for its 33 million youth audience.Beth, you might know more in this space. Love to discuss blogging this topic. I have a partnership with Friendster and perhaps could get them to join the blog.


    Patrick O'Heffernan - Oct 19, 2006 8:41 am (# Total: 37)

    chris...very good questions

    Cataloguing: we ran into this at The People Choose and licensed the dynaic map you see on the page. It is a terrific way to catalogue and loate campaign videos, which are usually sought by state. Dynamic mapping can be used in other waysv - it doesn't have to be geographic. The code connects to a data base which can be topical, author-related, country related ...anythihg you want. All you have to do is change the graphics and the pointers. The map is licenses, so the programmer would likely be open to working with other formats. As to sub banks for differnet audiences, I think the challenge is not technical, it is promotional. There ar so many sources of informtion, why should yours be used? I would suggest convening representatives of the audiences you want to attrack and ask them the best way to prsent information, and the kinds of information they want. In the process of couse, you are promoting the site!


    Julius - Oct 26, 2006 4:36 am (# Total: 37)

    I recently made a short video (1 minute) explaining the charity social network site helpalot.org I'm working on.

    http://www.helpalot.org

    I love how easy sites like YouTube make it to spread a message. I think the main reason its great, is that humans just mostly like visuals and audio over reading. It takes less energy to get the message.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5OZRqj5VXQ

    Networking for the Social Benefit Sector

    Hosted by Charles "Hipbone" Cameron (October 2006)

    What's your story? What’s your need?

    One powerful purpose of Social Edge as a community (in addition to being a place to find resources) is to provide people in the field with contacts who may face similar problems in geographically distant regions or with very different resources for problem solving -- to get exchanges of information going between participants that are fruitful in real-world application.

    Is this going on? Have you made a contact through Social Edge that has enabled you to deal with an otherwise intractable problem? Do you have a problem in search of advice on the Social Edge network?

    Charles "Hipbone" Cameron notes that stories of successful networking achieved through the SE community are "proof of concept" for the work we do here -- and also exhilarating inspirations for what more we can accomplish.

    What's your story?

    What’s your need?

    Jump in the conversation.



    Tio - Oct 17, 2006 2:45 pm (# Total: 64)

    nice beign here, hope to network with folks alike for positive change



    Tio - Oct 17, 2006 2:48 pm (# Total: 64)

    i have really had a website managed and supported by people of good will, my challenge is to make this non profit site attractive to donors, how? www.ayftafrica.ca



    brownbag - Oct 17, 2006 2:49 pm (# Total: 64)
    You Can Make a Difference!

    Catalyst for Community Based Solutions

    Brown Bagging for Calgary's Kids is a local organization that provides 1000 nutritious lunches a day for kids in school that would otherwise do without. Research shows that there are 30,000 kids attending school without adequate nutrition so we are just tipping the iceberg. Our mission is two-fold to mitigate hunger and act as a catalyst to community based solutions. We have had some success seeing parents, commmunities and grassroots organizations take up the challenge and we are able to act as a resource (both financial and advisory) but we still encounter resistance. The main stumbling block is the absence of 'the' model. Most stakeholders want us to offer them a perfect solution while we are determined to assist them in finding the most appropriate response that works for their community. Any suggestions?


    Tio - Oct 17, 2006 3:17 pm (# Total: 64)

    Calgary's Kids

    Hey Brown, am wondering if by law, these kids are supposed to be fed in school, that's my understanding in theory within the candain law, can you move beyound the stakeholders to involving private sectors?

    Tio

     



    scottbeale50 - Oct 17, 2006 3:54 pm (# Total: 64)
    Scott Beale, Founder, Atlas Corps www.atlascorps.org

    Launching an international social venture

    Briefly, my story and my need.

    My story.  My name is Scott Beale and I recently left a secure and exciting job with the US State Department doing human rights work in India to start a new international nonprofit (Atlas Service Corps) that will bring rising nonprofit leaders from the developing world to volunteer for one year in the US.  This unique approach to international service provides an outstanding professional development opportunity to rising overseas nonprofit leaders, builds capacity among US nonprofit organizations and creates avenues for international cooperation.  Further, it is a sustainable, scalable program since US nonprofit organizations pay about 50% of the expenses to host a Fellow (about $16,000).

    My need.  I want people to check out http://www.atlascorps.org - I am looking for host organizations in Washington, DC; feedback from thought leaders on the idea and of course, resources.  This is a revolutionary new approach that values the contributes of leaders from the global south and completes the important circle of service that the 300+ organizations like the Peace Corps have done for 45 years sending Americans overseas to volunteer.

    Thanks for your interest, I look forward to reading other people's posts.

    Sincerely, Scott Beale - www.atlascorps.org - scott@atlascorps.org



    Tio - Oct 17, 2006 4:07 pm (# Total: 64)

    Launching an international social venture

    Hi Scot, absolutely good idea, but i think there are many similar programmes in the USA, my concern is what makes it really 'unique' could that be the strategy...? think about it.  may be shifting to Canada - Toronto could be an alternative...


    kmniazi - Oct 18, 2006 12:38 am (# Total: 64)
    Development Professional

    International Social Venture

    Scott,

    I agree with the idea, and as a Third Sector Professional in the developing world, it would be a great opportunity for people like me.

    However, do have some queries, how do you make sure that the people, you get are working at grass roots level and how do you ensure that the same people are not invited again & again & again by different organizations.

    Another thing, the cost is around 16 K. do you expect the fellow to pay the rest, which might be difficult for people with adverse exchange rates compared to dollars. 8,000 US $ is about 480,000 PKR, which is big amount.

    I dont know about other organizations, which offer the same opportunity, so cant comment on Tios post.

    anyway, best of luck and thanks for starting this venture


    scottbeale50 - Oct 18, 2006 4:47 am (# Total: 64)
    Scott Beale, Founder, Atlas Corps www.atlascorps.org

    Thanks Tio and Kmniazi

    Let me briefly answer some of your questions and strongly encourage you all to check out www.atlascorps.org - I have my entire business plan online and a lot more info.

    Tio - Uniqueness.  My research indicates that there are no other organizations in the US bringing mid career nonprofit professionals to the US to volunteer for one year at likeminded US nonprofits to learn best practices as well as share their perspectives..  There are academic programs that teach Fellows, short-term government programs, even business and religious programs.  But none in the nonprofit sector like what I am doing.  Online I outline the uniqueness and compare Atlas Corps to similiar organizations: http://www.atlascorps.org/competition.html  However, if people know of similiar programs, please check out that site and then let me know if there is something out there I have not thought of.

    Kmniazi - Quality & Price. I will ensure a high quality of people working at the grassroots through a nominator network, similiar to where I used to work - Ashoka - that will guarentee outstanding candidates.  In addition, the J-1 visa and program requirements mandate that Fellows return back to their home country for at least two years before coming back to the US.  With regard to the price, the program costs me $36,000.  $16K is covered by the partner and I need to raise about $20K more for each person.  The Fellow will not be responsible for living expenses, they will receive a small but sufficient living stipend, like a Peace Corps or AmeriCorps volunteer.  They will also get their travel paid, health care, etc.

    Thanks for the kind words and the interest. I welcome all feedback and encourage people to check out www.atlascorps.org and to email me at scott@atlascorps.org

    I am piloting this program with nonprofit leaders from India and Colombia going to nonprofit organizations in DC and DE, so I could use leads in those areas and generally want feedback from everyone.

    Take care, Scott Beale



    Cgasca - Oct 18, 2006 8:17 am (# Total: 64)
    Social Entreprenuer

    Calgary Kid's

    Maybe the question is not really what do the stakeholders want, maybe the question is how do you feed 30,000 kids with brown bag lunches? Think about it, how would you do it? Don't limit yourself to only nonprofit views, think about how the system would operate and how much capital could be required. There is probably more than one way to accomplish this succesfully,which could give you some models to offer stakeholders.

    Once you have a few concepts down, ask yourself, can this model and its assets also generate an income? Maybe not, maybe it could work but you may not want to do it. However, from the analysis you will have pretty good idea of what to ask for, then you will need to focus on finding the prospects who could support you, including new stakeholders. After all the goal is to feed 30,000 kids not just enough to make the stakeholders and funders feel happy. Good luck! Carlos


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 18, 2006 10:11 am (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Getting off to a good start...

    I’m very glad to see this topic stirring so much interest so fast.

    Tio, welcome, and thanks for your various posts. If you have a website you want us to visit, it’s best to give the full URL: -- in your case, http://www.ayftafrica.ca. That way, we can click through without the extra step of reconstituting the URL in our browsers.

    Brownbag, thanks for posting here. Your comment that:
      Most stakeholders want us to offer them a perfect solution while we are determined to assist them in finding the most appropriate response that works for their community
    is a telling one, and Carlos’ response:
      There is probably more than one way to accomplish this successfully
    just reinforces it from my POV. As I read your post, you are as interested in generating community thought and proactivity (essentially an educational effort) as you are in feeding the kids – a bit of a "don’t just give them a fish, teach them to fish" philosophy. Having two ideals to aim for can be tricky, for obvious reasons, but as the fish aphorism indicates, it may also be the stronger response to situations in the long haul.

    Scott, when I read your posts, I too wondered whether there were other efforts along similar lines. Avoiding duplication of effort is a worthy goal, doing due diligence to avoid it is important – although two attempts at the same goal may in fact generate variety of means, and serve the goal in that way.

    I’m glad, therefore, that Tio brought the question of uniqueness up, and that you responded to that issue in more detail in your second post. I also appreciate Kmniazi’s question (and interest in your program) and your response. Could you imagine a subset of your program providing scholarships for all or part of the cost to volunteers?

    And what did your experience at Ashoka do to influence your planning here? Can you expand on that side of the story for us?



  • While we’re looking at ways in which the posters here can network with each other of with other readers, let’s not lose sight of the idea of "proof of concept", and the search for stories of successful networkings that have already happened -- triggered or spurred on by posts and articles here on the Edge.

    Keep on posting!

    -- Charles


  • scottbeale50 - Oct 18, 2006 10:48 am (# Total: 64)
    Scott Beale, Founder, Atlas Corps www.atlascorps.org

    Ashoka's influence on me (and Atlas Corps)

    Thanks Charles,

    An important part of my story is the almost three years I worked at Youth Venture, essentially the youth wing of Ashoka: Innovators for the Public.  While at Ashoka I learned so much from Bill Drayton and the dynamic team they have about social entrepreneurship, innovation, sustainability and scalability.  Their unending emphasis on these principles and the opportunity to interact with Fellows who put those principles to use have shaped my own path as a social entrepreneur and how I have shaped Atlas Corps.  In fact, I'm honored to share that Bill Drayton and David Bornstein both agreed to be on my Senior Advisory Board.

    To answer your other question about whether I think that I can eventually cover 100% of the Fellows expenses through the host organization cost share, the answer is yes.  In my opinion, these Fellows are worth $50K+, they are the best of the best, sharing their perspectives at an organization.  In the beginning the $16,000 cost share covers 40% of the cost, but over 10 years I think I can increase this to $28,000, and with economies of scale, have this cover 100% of the program expense.  This revenue stream allows Atlas Corps to expand all over the world and be completely sustainable.  More on this here: http://www.atlascorps.org/on_sustainability.html

    Oh, now that I re-read your question, I think you misunderstood my post.  There is no cost to the volunteers, they are giving their time.  The cost is to the US Host Organizations (US nonprofits) who are gaining the Fellow for a year. Similiar to how most US nonprofits cost-share AmeriCorps VISTAs.

    Thanks! Scott Beale, http://www.atlascorps.org



    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 18, 2006 11:26 am (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [Scott] Ashoka's influence on me (and Atlas Corps)

    Hi Scott,

    -- and thanks for your prompt response. One of the wonders of this medium, I find, is the possibility of talking with others in near real time, and I'd love to see the excitement that our almost conversational speed of interaction can generate building closer bonds of cooperation between us here on the Edge.

    I had indeed mis-read your post, and I think Kamran [kmniazi] may have been puzzled by it too. I thank you for the clarification.
      I'm honored to share that Bill Drayton and David Bornstein both agreed to be on my Senior Advisory Board.
    Congratulations! That, right there, says a great deal about your venture. I don't believe either one of them would be willing to endorse an effort which didn't seem to them to meet an unmet need, and they must be among the most knowledgeable in terms of what's being done to build the kind of global "circle of service" you are aiming for.


    tutormentor - Oct 18, 2006 2:25 pm (# Total: 64)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Connecting those who can help with those who need help

    Charles, thanks for hosting this discussion

    My Story: I have led the Tutor/Mentor Connection since 1993 and a volunteer-based tutor/mentor program since 1974. The goal is to connect workplace volunteers with inner city kids in structured programs that offer a wide range of learning and enrichment as part of an effort to help kids move to jobs and careers. I host a variety of forums that enable people to connect with each others, and with ideas that they can use. My aim in participating in Social Edge is to find others who share the same goal, and who will work together to increase the involvement of business, and business resources in helping kids from poverty neighborhoods in many cities be part of structured, long-term programs.

    Value of Social Edge: I've been invited to host two discussion on Social Edge this year and hope to do more in the future. On Nov. 30 I'm hosting a one day event in Chicago, which I describe at http://www.tutormentorconference.bigstep.com/. If any readers can participate either by coming to Chicago, or by hosting on-line disucssions in December, or by helping me find others who can participate, I'd like to hear from you.

    You can read more about my efforts at http://tutormentor.blogspot.com/



    kmniazi - Oct 19, 2006 12:03 am (# Total: 64)
    Development Professional

    Connecting People in Pakistan

    Scott, Thanks for the quick response and the clarification.

    Two comments: 1. The same people are nominated by organizations. Connections matter in this place and you might get people, who are not that competent but know the right people. This is bad for the host organization and bad for the country. I am interested in this issue, as right now, am working with consultants and dont want to use some of the people, who are recommended to me. I know there are great people out there, but cant get in touch with them.

    2. Ask your volunteers to donate some thing (their time / skills / perspective). Dont limit them to the host organization (you would not think bad of a American, who does volunteer work after his job ends, so why shouldn't these guys). they should also work with some local non-profit, which cannot afford to host people or do community work or have interactive discussions with the general community. These people cannot give you money, but they should give something, no free lunches in this world, especially non-profit.

    Kamran


    kmniazi - Oct 19, 2006 12:16 am (# Total: 64)
    Development Professional

    Have I Met Anyone through SE - the Answer is No

    To be honest, I have been a very dormant member of the community. The major reason is internet connectivity and minor is I prefer emails, as they allow me to keep up with events. The lists have been better at generating contacts (been a member of some for years) and managed to generate contacts through there.

    SE is a bit difficult for me (to be very honest, I didn't try hard enough) as I have limited time. Generating interest/ participation among people is an issue facing all online communities (run my own groups / trained as a online & offline facilitator, so know about it).

    I would call my experience a failure for myself as well as SE. Both of us have not managed to take full advantage of the possibilities. Please do not take this as too harsh criticism, I believe in this concept, but there is always room for improvement. Any ideas, about how I can take full advantage of SE and contribute to SE in a meaningful way.


    scottbeale50 - Oct 19, 2006 8:01 am (# Total: 64)
    Scott Beale, Founder, Atlas Corps www.atlascorps.org

    Connecting with People

    Thanks Kmniazi,

    Regarding how we will find Atlas Corps Fellows.  In the beginning we will rely on a nomination process because it is starting as a small program and we have limited resources and reach.  Further, we have associations with Ashoka, USAID, the US Embassy and other networks of NGO leaders in Colombia and India.  We wont reach everyone, but we will reach a lot.  Over time we will open up the application process.

    And regarding asking the Fellows to volunteer - absolutely.  They will be volunteering their time at the Host Organization, and they will also be spending time studying best practices in the US.  In addition, they will be asked to do a team service project and get involved in the community.

    Finally, regarding connecting with people on SE.  I am pretty new to SE, find some conversations better than others. I am here to get feedback on my idea and hope to meet people in the process.  We'll see ...

    Thanks,

    Scott Beale - scott@atlascorps.org - http://www.atlascorps.org  



    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 19, 2006 8:59 am (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [Scott] Connecting with People

    Hi Scott:

    I have a mild concern which has floated across my mind a couple of ntimes and maybe deserves a mention -- how strong does an organization have to be, for it to be able to "lose" one of its best for a year to a program like the one you propose? I imagine you've thought this through, so I'm asking more to see if there's something for us all to learn here than to prod you on a point I'm sure you've considered at length...


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 19, 2006 9:14 am (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re [kmniazi] Have I Met Anyone through SE - the Answer is No

    Hi, Kamran:

    I much appreciate your candor in responding to my question about connections made here on SocialEdge -- I think its gives us a really fine opportunity to open up the issue of how to gain the greatest benefit from, and bring the most fruitful gifts to, an online community such as SocialEdge.
      Generating interest / participation among people is an issue facing all online communities
      Any ideas, about how I can take full advantage of SE and contribute to SE in a meaningful way?
    You're going right to the heart of my own passion wrt SocialEdge here,. and I do indeed have ideas about online community with implications for our experiences here in SE -- but they're all rushing into my head at once, and will need time to disentangle and post. So this is mainly to thank you again for your honest response, with a promise to tackle the issues you raise in a post or posts that may take me a little while to write...

    I'd be delighted if anyone else would care to chime in in the meanwhile...


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 19, 2006 10:17 am (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [tutormentor] Connecting those who can help with those who need help

    Dan:

    Thanks yet again for posting to SocialEdge. [I should probably explain that Dan and I go back a ways, and have found common interests in a series of conversations across several different SocialEdge online events – and that’s part of the point, isn’t it? That repeated exposure to another person of goodwill leads to a personal connection that in turn allows one to dig further into the needs and resources of the other party, thereby strengthening, broadening and even (gasp) deepening the level of communication and networking that’s possible?]

    • My aim in participating in Social Edge is to find others who share the same goal, and who will work together to increase the involvement of business, and business resources in helping kids from poverty neighborhoods in many cities be part of structured, long-term programs.
    One of the central possibilities of our membership here in SocialEdge, it seems to me, is to facilitate exactly this kind of networking.

    Dan has spent a considerable amount of time working through the issues that arise when working on a specific problem in a specific geographical area, and as a result has an understanding of certain “best practices” that might take another social entrepreneur some time to stumble across. In particular, he has figured out ways to use local maps (and web-based mapping technologies) to distinguish areas of need from well served areas within a given location such as Chicago.

    I’m sure there are a number of social enterprises represented on these boards which could benefit greatly from some of Dan’s techniques, and hope his post – and these few words of mine – will encourage others to visit the TutorMentor site and explore them.

    There’s more to Dan’s work than these techniques, of course, and I hope those who share his focus on tutoring / mentoring will take special note of his site, and that his request for support for his November event and follow-up discussions will also generate interest and networking activity.

    Regards,

    Charles


  • scottbeale50 - Oct 19, 2006 10:26 am (# Total: 64)
    Scott Beale, Founder, Atlas Corps www.atlascorps.org

    (Charles) Strength of Developing World Orgs ...

    Good question - "how strong does an organization have to be, for it to be able to "lose" one of its best for a year"

    Atlas Corps is recruiting rising leaders who have 4-8 years of experience, ideally mid career professionals, #2s or #3s in an organization.  We do not want to take Executive Directors and we do not want to take recent students either.  We want people who when they leave the organziation will not fall apart (e.g. Exec. Dir) but have been around long enough they have a lot to share too.

    It may be the case that when these rising leaders come to the US they need to leave their jobs and be replaced by someone else.  That is ok, the Fellow will know this in advance and get a financial award when they return home to help with the transition to a new job.  Larger organizations may be able to hold positions open, smaller organizations will not.

    The key point is that while these fellows will miss one of year of service to their country they will come back 20%, 30% of 50% better at what they do (although this is difficult to measure, we will try).  So, after 2, 3 or 5 years they will have made up for lost time and be able to spread their knowledge to others.

    This aspect of the model was developed by NGO leaders in India who thought the benefits of the program far outweighed the logistical, short term challenges.

    Thanks! Scott http://www.atlascorps.org - scott@atlascorps.org



    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 19, 2006 11:38 am (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [Scott] Strength of Developing World Orgs...

    Hi Scott:

    I’d like to probe this a little more with you, if I may.
      Atlas Corps is recruiting rising leaders who have 4-8 years of experience, ideally mid career professionals, #2s or #3s in an organization. We do not want to take Executive Directors and we do not want to take recent students either. We want people who when they leave the organziation will not fall apart (e.g. Exec. Dir) but have been around long enough they have a lot to share too.
    It seems to me that these criteria will net you a group of “early adopters” rather than “originators” – perhaps even the people who stand behind a visionary and make sure the details that slip by him or her are caught and dealt with. So that one of your considerations might be to avoid taking out a #2 person who serves as the “enabler” (no negative connotation intended) of the visionary originator of a project.

    I personally think that visionaries are the key to social entrepreneurship, in the sense that doubling the number of Yunus-type innovators doubles the number of fields of social success in which any number of others may follow, whereas doubling the number of skilled executors of their ideas has a significantly less powerful impact – and I say this, fully knowing how wonderful such “executive officer” types can be.

    Perhaps (again, this is my personal and somewhat contrarian POV you understand) some of your ideal targets might be visionaries who have reached that point where the detail work that remains is best left to others, where they should be turning their attention to new fields and new problems, generating new visions and new possibilities rather than getting bogged down in the day to day aspects of visions they’ve already articulated…

    Hope this helps! -- Charles


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 19, 2006 11:52 am (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [Scott] Strength of Developing World Orgs...

    And then there's the vexed business of quantifying the qualitative... something which you have obviously considered, since you mention it in your post when you say:
      they will come back 20%, 30% of 50% better at what they do (although this is difficult to measure, we will try)
    Yes, this is a very tricky business -- made even more problematic by the fact that if you misjudge the impact of removing a key person and an entire (small) orhganization fails, that needs to be included in your overall measurement too...

    The consequences of your successes are liable to be more apparent than those of your failures, in other words, but your overall impact will be the product of both.



  • Speaking more generally, (ie not to your in particular, Scott, though I'd value your comments on all this)...

    On the whole business of qualitative vs quantitative approaches to value and significance, I'm always reminded of the quote Einstein kept on his wall at Princeton:
      Not everything that counts can be counted; not everything that can be counted counts
    I wouldn't worry about this so much if we were better able to balance the two kinds of valuation -- but I'm afraid we tend to discount whatever can't be counted, and miss a lot that is of great human singificance in the process.

    Maybe I should put that more forcefully:
      in my view, social entrepreneurs are the natural standard-bearers for the often overlooked qualitative aspect of the world we live in -- after all, we're the ones who seek to add human importance into otherwise impersonal "bottom-line" thinking -- and should therefore make a greater than usual effort to ensure qualitative factors are not ignored in their decision-making.
    Unfortunately, from this point of view, all the benefits that can accrue to social projects by observing business best practices, measuring ROI and so on, can easily be cancelled out by the loss of intangibles and immeasurables...

    Jim Fruchterman 's "Return on Humanity" (ROH) is a brilliant phrase, and one that I hope will echo far beyond the realms of Benetech -- let's make sure we don't assimilate it so closely to ROI that the qualitative gets lost in the process...


  • brownbag - Oct 19, 2006 12:13 pm (# Total: 64)
    You Can Make a Difference!

    Thanks Carlos,

    We could raise the $1.2 Million/year and design systems(assembly,delivery) to produce and deliver 30,000/day but we believe that we would be perpetuating the problem of child hunger. It isn't about feeding 30,000 kids through an agency lunch program - it is about changing attitudes around the issue and raising community-based solutions to the problem.In Calgary it is wrong that there are starving children in Sudan but it is bad that kids in Calgary are hungry. We need to raise awareness about this situation and that it is wrong. It is the small thinking of service provision without solutions that ends up managing issues and everytime we manage an issue (hunger, homelessness, health ...) we disempower, create dependence and entitlment and unfortunately support an organizational focus ( where the organization must survive). Harsh as it sounds, I am willing to not feed every child to ensure that in the future hungry children won't exist.



    kmniazi - Oct 19, 2006 9:59 pm (# Total: 64)
    Development Professional

    Contacting People

    Scott,

    I like Ashoka, in fact want to work for them. they are great.

    USAID, US Embassy, I am not too sure. See, while they pay / spend a lot of money, their outreach in limited, at least according to my experience.

    You might want to check out www.aidworkers.net, especially their advisory panel. there you would find people, who are working in the field all over the world.

    Regards

    PS my first name is Kamran, kmniazi is nick


    kmniazi - Oct 19, 2006 10:27 pm (# Total: 64)
    Development Professional

    Candor about Issues

    Charles,

    If we are not candid, then what is the use of opinion provided. We come here to share our ideas and ask people for their inputs, so that OUR concepts become clearer and we find solutions to potential problems.

    Question is, how do we encourage candid opinions in an online world? you dont express candid opinions in the offline world, unless you have learned to trust people.


    scottbeale50 - Oct 20, 2006 5:13 am (# Total: 64)
    Scott Beale, Founder, Atlas Corps www.atlascorps.org

    Atlas Corps ...

    Kamran - Thanks for the feedback, I will check out www.aidworkers.net. I think the US Embassy has a pretty extensive network in India, but it is larger in some countries than others.

    Charles - I appreciate your feedback on ideal candidates and I like the concept of "Return on Humanity" very much.  Since this is our innaugural year we are going to take great care in finding the perfect candidates and I am sure we will learn a lot in the process.

    Take care,

    Scott Beale / http://www.atlascorps.org / scott@atlascorps.org



    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 20, 2006 8:37 am (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [brownbag] You Can Make a Difference!

    Hello again:

    I’m impressed and delighted when people set themselves the goal of fostering understanding and participation, just as I am when people attend to immediate, urgent needs. Both are important, although I don’t think we (as individuals, as a society) have a very clear idea of how to choose which approach to take – it seems to be something that just happens the way it happens.
      We believe that we would be perpetuating the problem of child hunger
      It isn't about feeding 30,000 kids through an agency lunch program - it is about changing attitudes
    So you’re very much in line with the “teach them to fish” philosophy, if I’m reading you right.
      Harsh as it sounds, I am willing to not feed every child to ensure that in the future hungry children won't exist.
    Stated that bluntly, it’s a terrible paradox, isn’t it? And yet we do what we can, where we can…


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 20, 2006 8:39 am (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    [ClaraJ]

    Hi Clara --

    And thanks for your note of support! I'd like to invite you to join the conversation here, convey some of your enthusiasm and ideas...


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 20, 2006 9:23 am (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    [Kamran, Scott, all...

    Hi Kamran, Scott --

    One small URL for Scott, I'm tempted to say, one giant leap for...

    That's the thing, isn't it? The particular URL that Kamran posted in response to Scott's story, and that Scott said he'd check into, may or may not prove to be a giant boost to Scott's Atlas Corps project, but it's the seed of trust...

    Kamran, you yourself asked,
      how do we encourage candid opinions in an online world? you dont express candid opinions in the offline world, unless you have learned to trust people.
    I think that trust is built incrementally, by many small acts of mutual assistance (assuming that reputation doesn’t already supply it, as it may in the case of known wonder-workers in the social-entrepreneurial field).



  • It seems to me that SocialEdge can be of service to us in two ways. It can serve as a reference resource, a place like a library that we go to to find out specific information that we are looking for -- and it can serve as a friendship net -- and I use that phrase to cover the same territory as community, but in a manner that makes the combination of goodwill and networking explicit, with perhaps a hint that community can also be a safety net in time of trouble…

    What interests me about these two possibilities is that they involve different patterns of browsing, different ways of using the internet. And the implication here is that to move from resource to network mode involves a change of style, and thus a choice to make the move.

    Those who come to SE as a resource when they have a question in mind and are looking for answers can use various navigational tools – the resources tab, SE’s search window, the various indexes of different sections of the site – to zero in on the info they’re looking for. But that involves coming to SE when you already have a question, searching, finding (hopefully), and departing satisfied once the relevant info has been gained. Perhaps one thing leads to another, and you find out some other useful information, or note down a contact or two… But basically, this process creates relatively little appreciation, relatively little sensed of community.

    SocialEdge serves this function very well, I believe, and it’s an important one – if a thousand people can get a thousand answers more quickly here than elsewhere, that in itself is a great good – and it’s one of the goods that’s also timely, a matter of keen importance to those whose time is short, their day long, and their target of authentic human significance!

    Treating SE as though it’s a kind home on the net, on the other hand, is a slower process, and one that we may therefore skip simply because there’s so much to do, so little time… If there were 36 hours in the day, we’d spend more time on SocialEdge, but…

    But look, this pattern of use builds an astonishing human resource far better than the other, quick-dip mode of information seeking does. It bonds us. It grows our trust. It carries the seeds of friendship, and of collaboration.

    I’m inviting those of you who read this message to move along the axis from resource to participant use of SocialEdge (it's no coincidence that another of Jeff Skoll's projects is called Participant Productions).

    One small URL found by searching the site isn’t quite as “personal” as one small quote found by saying something that catches another human’s interest and leads to a suggestion. A friendly response that shows appreciation of another’s work and quandaries establishes just the merest hint of goodwill, and thus of trust. And the thing works like a watercolor, layer upon layer of very slight coloration building into a rich and multilayered image of a gathering of friends, each concerned with social issues, each bringing their own skills to the table and drawing on the skills of others.



  • Kamran, you said a while back:
      Generating interest / participation among people is an issue facing all online communities
    And asked,
      Any ideas, about how I can take full advantage of SE and contribute to SE in a meaningful way?
    I didn’t respond directly at the time, but promised I’d begin to. This post is that beginning.

    My sense is that if we start thinking of SE as a home, and visit it pretty automatically when we go online, dropping a few words into the conversation in a friendly manner and beginning to get a sense of who else is on the boards, where they’re coming from, where their passions lie, etc -- if, in short, we begin talking to one another, and take the time to do so in a way that includes personality as well as information -- we’ll be keeping the resource full of interesting and useful bits of information, but we’ll also be enriching the community aspect – we’ll be building the trust that can lead to appreciation, which in turn can open up networking possibilities that can empower us far more than a simple library or database.

    And yes, friendship.

    All of that is what I’m after here, that’s what I’d like to encourage…


  • kmniazi - Oct 20, 2006 10:49 pm (# Total: 64)
    Development Professional

    Enterprise Development

    Scott,

    I gave the web site a very very brief look.

    You might want to focus on Enterprise Development as a Partnership Area. Admittedly, America is the best place to learn about Entrepreneurship Development.

    I would like to request that, you focus on Pakistan also.

    Regards

    Kamran


    Cgasca - Oct 21, 2006 6:39 am (# Total: 64)
    Social Entreprenuer

    Calgary Kid's

    Brownbag, Why not do both? As nonprofits we easily put ourselves into either or suitations. Calgary, is pretty rich and I have not doubt you could raise the funds for both. The awareness building and the feeding of the kids. As you pointed out in your first post it all depends on what the stakeholders and your organization are willing to be open too. Good luck! Carlos


    tutormentor - Oct 21, 2006 7:01 am (# Total: 64)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Building Trust, Networking with Purpose

    Charles,

    I'm in full agreement with you on the use of forums like this to expand your personal network and build trust and awareness essential for organizations to grow. At http://tutormentor.blogspot.com/2006/10/nobel-prize-giraffes-and-tutormentor.html I illustrate this concept and show how I'm connecting with others who want to create a better world.  By making time every week to add to conversations in a variety of related places, I'm connecting people who don't know each other, with me, and with people I know, who are represented as Links or participants in forums I host in Chicago, or on my own web site.

    It takes time to make this work. And it takes luck.  If you don't invest the time, it's not likely you'll have the luck.



    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 21, 2006 1:36 pm (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [Tutormentor] Building Trust, Networking with Purpose

    Just a quick note to say thanks for the Giraffe link -- lots of highly interesting stuff there!


    scottbeale50 - Oct 24, 2006 5:22 pm (# Total: 64)
    Scott Beale, Founder, Atlas Corps www.atlascorps.org

    Issue and Georgraphic Areas for Atlas Corps

    Thanks Kamran and Charles,

    Kamran - I am focusing on the UN Millennium Development Goals, generally hunger, poverty, gender equity, health (AIDS), environment, etc.  I would consider an NGO leader who works on entrepreneurial issues or micro-fiance to be addressing poverty and would qualify.

    But let me clarify, this is NOT simply about teaching NGO leaders overseas best practices from America, it is also about teaching US nonprofits perspectives from aboad.

    I am starting with India and Colombia because these are countries where I have lived and worked, eventually we will be around the world, including Pakistan.

    Thanks!

    Scott Beale - http://www.atlascorps.org - scott@atlascorps.org

     



    CHRISDANIEL - Oct 24, 2006 7:23 pm (# Total: 64)
    PROF.DR.J.CHRISTOPHER DANIEL

    Become of a partner of GOODWILL-INDIA

    Dear friend:

    Greetings from GOODWILL. Please take a few moments to visit our website at http://mfcs.malianfoundation.org/goodwill/. You will get to know of our work in India on our website.

    As a member of “SOCIAL EDGE’ I  am pleased to contact you and introduce me to you as Executive Director of Goodwill Social Work Centre, Madurai, India .I am a former professor of Social work at Madurai Institute of Social Sciences, Madurai, India. I am VICE CONSUL of the First children's Embassy in the World Medjashi- Macedonia.. I am a Networker registered with the Global Links Initiative,UK(http://www.glinet.org). The Goodwill social work centre is an Indian Non Governmental organization registered under the Tamilnadu Societies Registration Act 1975 and Foreign Contributions Regulations Act 1976,Government of India in order to be eligible to receive grant funds from international funding organisations.Our Centre is a member of the World Association for Non-Governmental Organization(WANGO),USA. I am glad to let you know that our organization is included in the NGO database of the websites: http://www.idealist.org/ (Action without Borders), http://www.enscw.org/, http://www.euforic.org/  and http://www.charitynet.org/

     I have hosted an event/discussion on the website: www.socialedge.org (USA) on the subject ‘Emerging Non-profit- Business partnerships in India’, 26th September-10th October, 2006. It is archived at http://www.socialedge.org/Events/ThoughtLeaders/38.

    It is  so delightful to visit your website and to know of your organisation and its various activities. I learn from your website that you are working with NGOs in developing countries. Would you be interested in partnering with our organisation and providing any funding for taking up  any of the following development programmes for poor and disadvantaged children and youth in rural and urban areas in Madurai,South India.

    1.Children's Human Rights Training programmes  for  children, teachers, parents and civic action groups in Madurai, India.
    2.Family Support Services for Children (including working children, disabled children,children affected by HIV/AIDS and  'Children on the streets') in dysfunctional families (A holistic care approach to the families of disadvantaged children including Child sponsorship programme for school children).
    3. Holistic care and Non-formal employment training programmes for poor and disadvantaged youth,including disabled youth , Madurai,India.
    4. Environmental education and action programmes for children in villages(A project to promote environmental rights and action programme among children)
    5.Community Technology centres for children and young women in low and middle income communities.

     I would be very grateful for any help and support you might offer to our centre. I  shall send you further information on hearing from you.  Best regards.
     
    Prof. Dr.J.Christopher Daniel, M.A.Ph.D (social work)
    Executive Director
    Goodwill social work centre
    No; 5, <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">south street</st1:address></st1:Street> extension
    Singarayar colony
    Madurai-625 002, India



    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 24, 2006 7:46 pm (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    more on weaving networks

    I just ran across this on the National Coalition on Dialogue & Deliberation blog, and thought it related to some of the strands here...

    The source for what follows is http://thataway.org/index.php/?p=563



  • "Jack Richuitto suggests seven levels of network weaving we are capable of. Starting with the strongest and most involving and moving down, they are:

  • 7. Introducing A to B in person and offering a collaboration opportunity to get A and B off to a successful partnership
  • 6. Introducing A to B in person and following up with A and B to nurture connection
  • 5. Introducing A to B in person
  • 4. Introducing A to B in a conference call
  • 3. Introducing A to B in an email
  • 2. Suggesting A talk to B and calling B to look for a contact
  • 1. Suggesting to A that A should talk to B

    Consider how often you are in the position of closing the triangles through network weaving. As a facilitator of communication, collaboration, innovation and social change, where does network weaving fit in your personal philosophy? Are you ready for the opportunities it provides?"


  • krisdev - Oct 24, 2006 8:22 pm (# Total: 64)

    Networking for Social Benefit

    If I am to overcome my narrow interests, I would like to say, we should network, for the larger benefit of deprived communities, the worldover.

    I feel, there is so much of talk and very little action. We need to transform the world and transform quickly. We need to bring order in a seemingly chaotic world. How do we go about it, to bring about the required change in the mindset of people?

     



    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 24, 2006 10:25 pm (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [krisdev] Networking for Social Benefit

    Hi Krishnan:

    Tell us more about your network, Tr-Ac Net, the International Transparency and Accountability Network. Do you have any success stories of networking through Social Edge, or by other online means?

    Has anyone else here on the Edge networked with Krishnan as a result of his posts here?


    Agu - Oct 25, 2006 2:31 am (# Total: 64)

    Interesting

    I come from a country of over 130 million people. Our problem is not lack of resources but lack of focused and foresighted leadership both at the vertical and horizontal levels. People are just too shortsighted.

    I am serious about helping my country Nigeria make progress but this cannot happen in isolation. I have not really started any crusades yet, but I would be delighted to have someone share his experience in social engineering at national level. Is there someone from Singapore in here?



    krisdev - Oct 25, 2006 4:16 am (# Total: 64)

    Suuccess stories of networking

    Thanks Charles I really appreciate your true spirit in taking positively my criticism.

    Yes. I have achieved some success thro' networking in India and globally. I am the proud recipient of the Manthan Award 2006 instituted by Manthan Award and American India Foundation, under the WSIS / UN for creating India' best e-Content in the category 'e-Inclusion & Livlihood' (www.manthanaward.com). I am attaching the details of the award, for instant reading.

    Transparency & Accountability Network (http://TrAcNet.blogspot.com) is a loose knit, not-for-proft, global consortium of social activists, coming together to transform the world, to create a Community Centric Sustainable Model, using Transparency and Accountability as the basic premise. 

    TrAcNet was co-founded by me with Peter Burgess in New York and the active support of many volunteers like Tod Bruning from Texas (Volunteer Sri Lanka), Joy & Jeff of the One Village Foundation, John Dada of Fantsuam, Nigeria, Prof. Lutfor Rehman, Executive Director of Adavnced Association for IT in Bagladesh, Evgeny Tyrtyshny of Kazhakhistan, and many others around the globe. We have achieved reasonable success in changing the mindset of people around the globe.

    I am an active member of many national and global forums such as UNDP Solution Exchange - Decentralization Community, AIDS-Beyond-Borders, One World South Asia, e-Civicus, Grassroots-Caucus, South-Asia-IT, Bytes For All Groups, ICT4D, Drum Beat Chat of Comminit, ekduniya-gender, Development Gateway, Open knowledge Network, etc., irrespective of regional, linguistic, religious, gender, literacy and other divides. I promote positive use of ICT to transform communities the worldover among Christians, Hindus, Muslims in Asia, Africa, Latin America, Middle East, etc.

    A post I made in "Middle East North Africa (MENA) Community Empowerment Community of Practice (CoP)" <">mena-cen@dgroups.org> has been quoted by Reza Sheikh <grezasheikh@yahoo.com>Reza Shiekh, as follows:

    "Kris called for “…a new world order…free of social, cultural, spiritual, ethical, ecological, economic, ... poverty….where no individual, family, community,
    society need live in fear or danger of annihilation - self created or forced from outside…neither capitalist nor communist nor socialist…(rather)…"TRANSPAREN<WBR>TIST(TM)", for all round peace and prosperity….where every activity of every
    individual and organization is transparent and accountable to the whole world. Where we need fear none and hide none.” His noble plea was indeed quite
    inspirational, one which I read out loud for my children".

    My e-Governance initiatives in india have helped to transform the life of common citizens and empowered them, introduced transparency and accountability, created a level playing field, minimised corruption, alleviate poverty and help achieve UN MDGs.

    I am not trying to blow my trumpets or promote myself. I am sure most of you have more honours to your credit and truly silence speaks more than words.

    You invited me to speak up about my successes. Just an example of how true networking can transform communities and society the worldover.

    Thanks Charles once again. I am available for rendering any service to any member of Social Edge.

    Attachments:

    Manthan-AIF Award 2006.pdf (42 KB)



    krisdev - Oct 25, 2006 4:59 am (# Total: 64)

    Transforming delivery of services

    Dear all,
     
    I am taking the liberty of posting from the recent Addresses made by the President of india and the Prime Minister of india on Right to information and Poverty Alleviation to transform the lives of a billion people of India. Every word is full of meaning for the poor and how to empower them and transform their lives. 
     
    Dr. A.P.J. Kalam, the Hon. Preisdent of India in his ADDRESS AT THE INAUGURATION OF NATIONAL CONVENTION ON RIGHT TO INFORMATION, NEW DELHI, 13-10-2006 : New Delhi
     
    Importance of National e-Governance Grid in RTI Envisioned
     
    "Right information enriches knowledge. Knowledge makes the nation great"
     
    E-Governance for transparent administration

    "Good governance is being recognized as an important goal by many countries across the world. They have taken up specific initiatives for open government. Freedom of information is being redefined and supported by detailed guidelines. The Internet revolution has proved to be a powerful tool for good governance initiatives and the world is moving towards Internet governance. An important dimension of the Internet potential is the possibility of providing services any time anywhere. Along with this, there is a conscious effort to put the citizen as the center of focus of the governance. Citizens are being perceived as customers and clients. E-governance has to be citizen friendly. Delivery of services to citizens is considered as a primary function of the government. Particularly in a democratic nation of a billion people like India, e-Governance should enable seamless access to information and seamless flow of information across the state and central government in the federal setup."

    E-governance grid

    "Can we provide good governance to our one billion people? Can the governance speed up the delivery system? Can the governance differentiate between genuine transactions and spurious transaction? Can the governance ensure immediate action for the genuine cases, which satisfies the checklist for a particular service and pend the action on spurious transactions? Can this be done by e-governance at a cost affordable by our nation? If we have this system implemented, then I can call this an ideal example of the effective e-governance system for the citizens. E-governance system is a means to an end. We need enlightened citizens to realize the full benefits of the e-governance systems. It is people who finally uphold ethics, morality and righteousness.

    National e-Governance Programme

    "NeGEP (National e-Governance Programme) is recently launched by Ministry of Information and Communication Technology with an outlay of Rs. 23,000 crore for implementing government to citizen services and establishing State Wide Area Network (SWAN) with State Data Centres with 2 mbps connectivity up to Block level with 100,000 Common Services Centres as front end. The primary focus of this NeGEP is aimed at upgrading the quality of governance by vastly improved delivery of government services in G2C and G2B domains. It is essential to establish the G2G e-Governance GRID by connecting District Level Data Centres to State Data Centre there by linking National Data Centre through a VPN based secured network. G2G E-Governance GRID should enable the secured dynamic workflow system across the government units thus ensuring the seamless file flow with digital signature authentication mechanism under the PKI framework. In the name of security, we shouldnt delay the implementation of e-Governance system any further. Only in the digital environment, security implementation is highly possible according to the security policy of the organization. With that kind of secured IT environment in place, if any body wants to escape or try to erase their foot prints, it is thus making further foot prints; hence it is traceable at all level through system oriented and application oriented audit trails. But in the present manual system, security is more vulnerable and it is totally depends on manual process. Hence, a Secured G2G e-Governance GRID will provide the total life chain of the e-Governance system right from the top echelons of the state and central government up to the District level and Block level administration, so that the G2C and G2B services planned through NeGEP will become effective. If this connectivity is established in its true spirit, then the access to Right to Information, right from the bottom of the e-Governance Pyramid to the top level, the seamless information flow and access to information is thus ensured. Hence establishing G2G E-Governance GRID is the life line for the effective implementation of RTI Act."

    http://presidentofindia.nic.in<WBR>/scripts/sllatest1.jsp?id=854<WBR>#top

    Dr. Manmohan Singh, the Hon. Prime Minister of India in his Address to the Annual Conference of District Rural Development Agencies on October 16, 2006 said: 

    "Our government is committed to the objective of inclusive growth. We have been engaged in refining programmes that seek to address this objective. We now have programmes with adequate resources to bridge the gaps in rural infrastructure through Bharat Nirman and to end the knowledge divide through the Sarva Siksha Abhiyan. We have an effective incentive-structure for primary education through the expanded Mid-day Meal programme. We are providing nutrition cover through an expanded Integrated Child Development Services programme. We have an ambitious programme to strengthen rural public health infrastructure and services through the National Rural Health Mission.

    Together these programmes bring resources to the extent of nearly Rs.100 crores per district per annum, to many backward districts. In addition, we have started the Backward District Grant Fund covering 250 districts. This will, for the first time, realize the goal that Rajiv Gandhiji set for us for effective decentralized planning. "Untied Funds" at the district level will be made available for meeting critical gaps identified at the district level in major national development programmes and build capacities of local and district- level institutions.

    All these new opportunities reinforce the need to strengthen the planning system at the district level. We need to commit greater professional resources at the district level. I would like your forum to put forward suggestions for strengthening the planning capacity at the district level.

    Bharat Nirman is an ambitious time-bound programme of our government for rural infrastructure. Three out of six components of Bharat Nirman of rural roads, rural housing and rural water supply fall directly under the purview of the Ministry of Rural Development.

    I congratulate my valued colleague, Shri Raghuvansh Prasadji, and his team for ensuring that we are well on our way to achieving these targets in these three components. I request the Project Directors to review this at the district level and ensure that the targets that we have promised are met in their entirety.

    As for rural roads - there are 7 states, namely, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Jharkhand, Orissa, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Chattisgarh which together account for over 90% of the backlog. In rural housing, against an overall shortage in housing stock of about 148 lakhs, we are providing 60 lakh houses. We have made a commitment that by 2009 all uncovered habitations will be covered under the rural water supply component.

    On all these three components of Bharat Nirman, we look for time-bound action by state governments.

    I am happy to note that the rural sanitation programme is now gaining momentum and is being personally championed by the Minister of Rural Development. Health standards of our people cannot improve if we do not invest in sanitation. Here we need appropriate strategies and not just more financial resources.

    Under the National Rural Health Mission, a community Health activist called ASHA is being placed in every village. I suggest that the rural sanitation programme makes effective use of this person as a change agent for creating hygiene consciousness.

    The programme for self-employment, the Swarnajayanti Gram Swarojgar Yojana (SGSY) has shown good results in several states. It has been instrumental in mobilizing a vast number of Self Help Groups for economic activity. Creation of such collectives can be a useful instrument for Project Directors at the district level to conceive channelising of development interventions through these groups.

    I am happy to note that the National Rural Employment Guarantee programme has been widely welcomed by the rural public as well as the state governments. Nearly 88 lakh people are working in over 2,42,000 development works. The strength of this programme is that it provides an effective safety net to the poorest.

    It is not surprising that the performance under the programme has not been uniform across states. The slow response in some states may be partly on account of low demand but in many states it may also be on account of delays in putting effective administrative arrangements in place. We look upon this programme to create durable assets and strengthen panchayati raj institutions, since at least 50% of works will be routed through them.

    I am happy to learn that over 1,58,000 works are in the area of water conservation. This is a huge opportunity opened up by the National Employment Guarantee Act. Community level water security can be created through sustained action under the NREGA if this pace is kept up. The issue of technical competence in executing such works is important and this must engage our special attention.

    NREGA opens up the opportunity to improve agricultural productivity in dryland areas. It is heartening that the dryland states have used NREGA funds to the maximum. Improvement of small farms through construction of wells, field bunds, land leveling, etc can increase productive capacity of drylands especially at a time when the production from well?endowed areas is plateauing.

    NREGA is a programme for societal transformation. It needs effective watchdogs from society. Panchayats and civil society organizations should be seen as complementary– while panchayats deepen the democratic space, civil society organizations broaden it. NGOs and citizens' groups should use instruments like the Right to Information Act to increase accountability and transparency under the NREGA.

    Project Directors must go beyond the programmes directly implemented by the Ministry of Rural Development and map human resources and skills in each district. This Ministry is singularly well-placed to develop District-level Rural Employment Reports capturing the wage employment created under NREGA, SGSY, SGRY as well as other development interventions in the district on an annual basis as a public document.

    At this point, I would like to draw your attention to the crisis in agriculture in many parts of the country. While improvements in rural infrastructure, employment generation and asset creation through wage employment programmes; and investments in irrigation are all important, the final goal is to improve the conditions in which agriculture is practised. Even now agriculture sustains over 70% of our rural population. Government schemes can only act either as social safety nets or as inputs to better agriculture. Till we focus on the larger goal of improving the economics of agriculture itself, we cannot alleviate rural distress. As young officers directly involved in work at the grassroots,

    I want you to focus on this task. Development of rural India needs your focused attention, a task which requires inter-sectoral coordination which you are best placed to do. Draw up a district agriculture plan. Set out clear goals. Dove-tail all these programmes into a larger goal of improving agricultural incomes. This is the way forward.

    Our next big growth story could be rural India. There is a conjuncture of circumstances, including the high growth rate of our economy, which holds great potential for rural India. We need relevant policy intervention to sustain this process. This is a national priority for us. We must bridge the developmental gap between urban and rural areas. We need to collectively ensure that rural India participates actively in the new growth process. In this national endeavour you have a vital and positive role to play. I urge you to play this role with dedication, enthusiasm and creativity. You can make a difference. I hope you will make that difference. May your path be blessed.

    http://pmindia.nic.in/lspeech<WBR>.asp?id=429

     

     
    "ICT can be used extensively through  to intoruduce legitimacy, transparency and accountability of a global community of active, engaged citizens committed to building a more just and equitable world, made possible by defending citizens fundamental rights to organise and act collectively for the public good, amplifying the voices of citizens and civil society, and enhancing citizens' influence in decisions that affect their lives.
     
    An attempt has been made towards such an implementation, envisaged by the Hon. President of India and Hon. Prime Minister of India, for the last 3 years.

    An integrated 'e-Platform' has been developed and implemented for the first time in India by Life Line to Business (LL2B. COM) using open standards components, for the Single Window Clearance System for Industrial Guidance Bureau, connecting various departments of the Govt. and local bodies including Municipalities and Commune Panchayats, for the Govt. of Pondicherry, in a single simple dial-up network, for establishing seamless communication link with the District Industries Centre, for giving time bound clearance of applications received.

    The response time to citizens can be considerable reduced and tracked at the highest level in the Govt and corrective / preventive action taken, in line with ISO 9000 principles. With proper infrastructure, the platform can be extended to connect all Panchayats with their Blocks, all blocks with their districts, all districts with their states and all states with the central Govt. thro' grid computing and VPN for centralised monitoring under Right to Information. Open Standards can help reduce the total cost of ownership.

    The Village Knowledge Centres / Common Service Centres, combined with the State Wide Area Network and the existing / proposed Panchayat / Block / District / State / National Level infrastructure, can truly establish a seamless link and can make the entire process of communication and workflow, Legitimate, transparent and accountable. 

    All communications can be made totally electronic, thereby eliminating the need for manual communication. The biometric linked Smart Card Citizen ID can make all communications secure.

    Mobile phones can be integrated seamlessly using J2MEE technology, to enable even remote people communicate through SMS or even in their local language. Similarly even simple land line telephone communication can be used to register citizen's grievances using IVRS. The compressed voice packet can be transmitted and stored in a local server. Automatic complaint registration system and self tracking by the citizen is possible. 

    Let us endeavour to transform the lives of the deprived in the developing world; let their dreams for a Community Centric Sustainable Living come true, thro' a concensus of global Public-Civil Society-Private Partnership to implement immediately, readily available ICT solutions, to respond instantly to citizen's needs, contain time and costs and not let each country and organization reinvent the wheel independently.

    Some details of how we have helped Govt. organizations transform themselves to render better service to citizens using a e-Governance tool called 'e-Admn', a web enabled, platform neutral solution, with local language interface is attached.

    Attachments:

    e_Admn_write-up.doc (299 KB)



    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 25, 2006 11:58 am (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [Agu] Interesting

    Hi Agu:

    Thaks so much for chiming in,.

    Have you tried looking up (a) Nigeria and (b) Singapore in our search engine?


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 25, 2006 12:06 pm (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re; [krisdev] Transforming delivery of services

    Hi again Krishnan:

    Thanks for your two long posts. There's too much in there for me to do more than single out one particular point, so perhaps I can go straight to your comment:
      The Village Knowledge Centres / Common Service Centres, combined with the State Wide Area Network and the existing / proposed Panchayat / Block / District / State / National Level infrastructure
    I'd like to invite you to expand on that and let us know about it in a bit more depth. "Zooming" along the continuum between small and large scales may be a characteristic of our times (I'll try to locate my source for that idea and post it), and to my mind it fits in with what Dan of TutorMentor has been doing with maps on a more local scale.

    Dan, do you see a possibility of cross-fertilization here?



  • Thrilled by the potential of our conversation, hoping to both record and trigger some positive networking with real time impact here.


  • tutormentor - Oct 25, 2006 4:04 pm (# Total: 64)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Bottoms up; tops down

    The ideas Krishnan shared are big ideas, of what governments might do. The ideas I propose are also big ideas, but what individuals and private sector organizations might do.

    I've put a variety of links on http://tutormentorconnection.org that illustrate how some people are creating visual diagrams of complex problems. Charles added a few links to that list last year.  If one thinks of a blueprint for a tall building, each page of the blueprint shows what needs to be done, and the various sub contractors who need to do specific jobs in specific ways.

    If one thinks of a blueprint when talking about ending poverty in just one neighborhood, or one village, many different actions, with many different sub contractors, would need to be involved over a period of many years. Each one needs to be paid, or the job does not get completed.  If you're the leader of India, the US, or any other country, you're problem is to end poverty in thousands of locations, not just one or two.

    Thus, getting government to implement these big ideas in ways that distribute attention and resources to all of the various people who need to be involved in ending poverty in many different places is a huge job. For those who make this vision their life work and passion, I give you my best wishes.

    I approach this from the opposite end.  I feel that getting workplace adults involved with inner city kids is a way to expand the social network for the kids and their families (Read the report, titled The Essential Supports for School Improvement, published by the Consortium on Chicago School Research at the University of Chicago:  http://ccsr.uchicago.edu/content/publications.php?_id=86 

    It is also a way to build a personal connection and understanding of the challenges these kids face among people who don't live in poverty, but need to act more generously and strategically if we're to be more successful in drawing needed resources to all of the organizations on a neighborh's bluepring for ending poverty.

    What I do is only one strategy by one small organization.  By sharing what I do in forums like this and via a web site, I enable anyone else in the world to borrow from this idea, or to contribute to it.  In the LINKS section of my web site I provide links to more than 1000 other organizations, and I organize these in categories. If I had the graphics ability, I'd show the relationship of these ideas, the same way an archetect shows the relationship of sub contractors on each page of a blueprint.

    In doing this, I provide a wider range of ideas that anyone else can draw from. As these ideas duplicate in multiple cities, we grow from being one small organization, to being many small organizations.  As this grows we become a more powerfull voice for innovation and change.

    At the grassroots level we are not restricted by bureacracy and politics. We can do whatever we feel needs to be done, just like any entrepreneur who sees a problem or an opportunity, and tries to fill it with a product or service.  Thus, we have more flexibility to innovate solutions to problems that governments will struggle to solve for many years into the future.

    I think we can meet in the middle. As the ideas of grassroots groups gain traction and prove to be viable, some governmens may adopt them as their own tops down strategy, or may move to take roles that make it easier for the grass roots ideas to reach a nation wide scale.

    My post is too long. Krishnan's was too long. Until we find ways to use pictures and blueprints to communicate complex ideas, we won't have enough people who read, understand and respond to what we're all saying.

    If through this network, and others, I can find visual communicators who are looking for an idea to communicate, we can work to find better ways to communicate the ideas were talking about.  That's one of the reasons I keep coming back. It's a way we can connect.



    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 26, 2006 11:02 am (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re [tutormentor] Bottoms up; tops down

    Hi Dan:

    Just a quick note that I couldn't get through to your site on the link you posted above. It's the page with links to graphic approaches I'd particularly like to link with.

    Also, do you have a "prefered" bio page?

    Thanks as always.


    tutormentor - Oct 26, 2006 11:15 am (# Total: 64)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Tutor/Mentor Connection site

    The correct ULR is http://www.tutormentorconnection.org.

    I probably need to create a centralized bio. Here's one that you can use: http://www.omidyar.net/user/u715126713/


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 27, 2006 8:10 pm (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    more on what makes for rich online networking

    This comes from MIT's Henry Jenkins, via Terra Nova, a brilliant blog featuring a number of very bright people wrtiting about multi-player online games.

    I think this gets very close to the kind of environment that I for one would like to see developing here on SocialEdge -- though in our case, it would be social engagement rather thasn artistic creation that's the core of it. Here's Jenkins' description of what he calls a "Participatory Culture" -- it's an environment:
      1. With relatively low barriers to artistic expression and civic engagement
      2. With strong support for creating and sharing one's creations with others
      3. With some type of informal mentorship whereby what is known by the most experienced is passed along to novices
      4. Where members believe that their contributions matter
      5. Where members feel some degree of social connection with one another (at the least they care what other people think about what they have created).
    That's powerful when it happens.


    tutormentor - Oct 28, 2006 6:36 am (# Total: 64)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Rich online networking focused at solving complex problems

    Charles, To me, these points would be important starting steps for what I'd call a "network of purpose". Without these building blocks a place like this cannot create an environment where people would work together, and give generously of what the have or know, to achieve a shared goal.

    To turn the participatory space to a network of purpose, I'd add

    6. Where people learn that the same problem needs to be addressed in many places, with many people/organizations taking leader/supporter roles

    7. Where people can give support to the visions of others, find support for their own vision, or work in groups to create new visions to meet needs and opportunities

    8. Where people can see a roadmap (or help create a roadmap) that shows how their continued involvement over many months, or years, can contribute to meeting a specific, or general goal

    9. Where progress toward goal is recognized and celebrated

    10. Where new leaders are recruited, nurtured, and given support, so that progress toward solving complex problems contiues beyond the life span of any single visionary

    I wonder how others might state this.


    Charles Cameron aka hipbone - Oct 28, 2006 10:36 am (# Total: 64)
    HipBone Games / Rheingold Associates

    Re: [tutormentor] Rich online networking focused at solving complex problems

    Hi Dan, all --

    See also Paul Lamb's suggestions in the Second Life and Social Sector event now running in parallel to this one.


    tutormentor - Oct 29, 2006 3:20 pm (# Total: 64)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Where do we find time for all of these innovations?

    Charles, I've been following the growth of Second Life and other on-line communications efforts.  At http://k12onlineconference.org is an on-line event attempting to draw educators together.

    I just cannot imagine how others find time to learn and use these tools, and still run their busineses?  I lead a small non profit that is constantly scrambling to find dollars to pay the rent, while also innovating ways to keep nearly 100 volunteers and 70 inner city teens connecting in meaningful ways each week.  And that's just part of my work load!

    Thus, where do we find time to spend learning the constantly expanding tools, or learning from all of the ideas being shared. 

    To me the solutions is in the type of collaboration we're doing. By introducing myself, I hope I find others who are concerned about helping kids from poverty move to careers, and who see mentoring as a way to expand the network of adults helping kids, while also expanding the number of adults who are personally involved with poverty.

    In this broad range of potential partners, I'm looking for people/institutions who will provide the manpower to facilitate the information we're collecting as part of an on-going effort to help others use it.  I'm also looking for technologists who will volunteer their tech talent to help us adopt and use these new tools. My first web site was built for me by a volunteer in 1997. My first blog was built by a volunteer in 2005. Thus, my hope is that my first Second Life page will also be created for me by a volunteer who wants to help build a tutor/mentor community in this new frontier.

    To me that's the only way one person can constantly expand into this constelation of knowledge and innovation....and learn to use it to accomplish a purpose.



    krisdev - Oct 29, 2006 7:35 pm (# Total: 64)

    Would the following mail of Jim Luce, Orphans International be relevant to the subject of our conversation? I am sure, some of you or many of you, may already be interacting with OI.

    Kris dev (Krishnan)

    “Raising Global Citizens”

     

     

    O.I. Worldwide
    http://www.oiww.org/

    HSH Prince Albert of Monaco
    Global Advisor

     

    Donor Nations

    OI America
    OI Indonesia
    OI United Kingdom

     

    Project Nations

    OI Dominican Republic
    OI El Salvador
    OI Ghana
    OI Guyana
    OI Haiti
    OI Peru
    OI Philippines
    OI Romania
    OI Sri Lanka
    OI Sulawesi
    OI Sumatera
    OI Togo

     

    O.I. America
    IRS EIN #43-1971411
    NYS Charity #20-55-05
    501(c)(3) Not-for-Profit Corp.

    540 Main St., Ste. 418
    New York, N.Y. 10044
    U.S.A.

    Tel.: 212-755-7285
    Fax
    : 212-755-7302

    info@oiww.org

     

    Board of Directors

    Jim Luce                   Pres.
    Yudy Persaud, M.D.                               <WBR>   V.P.
    Rosa Suárez              Sec.
    L. Chambers, C.P.A. Treas..
    Carol Hoskins, PhD, RN
    Messan Minyanou

     

    International Council

    Jim Luce                    Chair
    Marlene Flom            Pres.

     

    Advisory Board

    Doris Chernik, PhD
    Ariele Cohen, Esq.
    Jean-Jacques de St. Andrieu
    Miguel F. Dueñas, MBA
    Gail Farber ,MD
    Don Hoskins, MD
    Dan Chin Yu Kiang
    Hon Erasmo Lara-Peña
    C. Nilsa Olivero, PhD
    Ethel Grodzins Romm
    Nainesh Shah, CFA
    David Stein, Esq.

    Kris Dev
    krisdev@gmail.com

    October 29, 2006

    Dear Friend of Our Orphans,

    I would like to take this opportunity to reintroduce Orphans International to you. In 1996, I had a dream of building a network of interfaith orphanages to raise global citizens around the world.  I wanted to not only ensure the survival of orphaned children, but also enable them to become contributing members of a global society through service to their local communities.  Over the years, thousands of individuals have helped us to make this dream become reality.

    On Friday, Nov. 17, from 6:00 to 11:00 pm, we will celebrate Ten Years’ Vision, Five Years’ Reality – at the United Nations.  The program will consist of our formal Recognition Ceremony in the Delegates’ Conference Room from 6:30 to 9:00pm followed by a World Party featuring live entertainment from 9:00 to 11:00pm.

    One of the highlights of the evening will be the CD release of the draft of my new book, Riding the Tiger; the Creation of Orphans International, about the history of Orphans International, our children throughout the world, and our supporters.

    By November, we will be open in Sulawesi and Sumatera (Indonesia), as well as in Haiti, Sri Lanka, El Salvador, Togo, and Peru.  Our supporters have made this momentous growth possible, and our children around the world have thrived.

    We are holding two complimentary $100 tickets for you and a guest to attend our benefit at the United Nations.  These tickets are our gift to you in appreciation of your past interest, and in hopes of encouraging your increased future support.

    Because of security at the U.N. you must RSVP your intention to attend by Nov. 3rd so that the U.N. receives our final list by Nov. 6th.  On Nov. 17th you must enter the U.N. through the Visitor’s Entrance before 7:00 p.m.  RSVP to info@oiww.org or (212) 755-7285

    We appreciate your past interest in our programs, and as we look to the future, we hope to inspire an even greater commitment to Orphans International.  I am pleased to report that approximately ten individuals are expected to sit on our Founder’s Circle in 2007 (giving at least $20,000 per year), we have many members of the President’s Circle giving $10,000 per year, and several more on the Director’s Circle at $5,000 per year.  Dozens of members contribute $1,000 per year, and soon we will have 150 Child Sponsors giving $600 annually.  All of these individuals will be honored at the ceremony.

    Please plan on joining us as we celebrate our growth and success in changing the lives of children in the Caribbean, the Americas, Africa, and Asia.  Please join with us on Nov. 17th at the United Nations!


    Warm regards,

      

    Jim Luce                              RSVP to info@oiww.org or (212) 755-7285
    President & Founder

    Interfaith ¨ Interracial ¨ International ¨ Intergenerational ¨ Internet-Connected

    Orphans International Worldwide
    540 Main Street #418
    New York, N.Y. 10044
    O: 212/755-7285
    F: 212/755-7302
    jim@oiww.org
    http://www.oiww.org



    tutormentor - Oct 30, 2006 8:42 am (# Total: 64)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Impressive work - Lots of need. Lots of opportunities.

    The Orphans International program looks like it's doing great work. There are millions of young people around the world who are orphans. There are many others who may have living parents, but are almost orphans due to the lack of support these parents are giving.

    In both cases, there is probably much more need for adult involvement and support, for many years, than there are leaders and donors working to help provide this support.

    If we can map the places in the world where there are high numbers of youth needing adult support, and identify the agencies/organizations that are in direct contact with these youth, then we can learn from Orphans International Worldwide and others new strategies for drawing consistent volunteer and donor support to all of these agencies. At the same time, we should be able to use the maps to identify the many places where there are no agencies and help new organizations form to fill these voids.

    Through introductions like this we may be able to connect the efforts of different groups working toward the same goals.

    Thanks for sharing this.



    clelia - Oct 31, 2006 11:16 pm (# Total: 64)

    ecotourism in Bolivia

    Dear Sir or Madam

    We want your opinion about our project in Bolivia "Ecotourism network Bolivia" with the objective of develop jobs in the indigenous communities that live inside of national parks and other protected areas of our country.

    As you know, Bolivia is a rich country in natural resources, and also very poor.  Me and my colleages in Cochabamba city, we wrote a mega project with five modules, that target this problem.  Ecotourism in Bolivia is underdeveloped and the potential are infinite, because we don't have an indrustrialized country.

    we want economic resources to the following activities:

    - build cabañas and other environmental friendly infraestructure inside the communities.

    - basic transportation

    - informal capacitation in enterpreunership to men and women involved in our project.

    Our dreams are big, also the social and economic impacts of our project, also for the environment, the amazon basin and the rain forest.  conservation and develop is our main goal in a perfect balance where everybody will be a winner.

    Also we want your opinion... what is the best option for our project? by Non Governamental Organization? or by private enterprises?  do you have anoter sugestions?

    Our strategic is create join ventures with communities, with municipalities and other agencies or institutions that will help to reach our goals. We want communities managing independent projects in their communities, serving theirselves economic and socially.

    We will apreciatte your valuable sugestion and help to finance our project. 

    Looking forward to heard from you,

    Clelia Ayreyu-Wilmeth

    boliviaglobal@gmail.com

     

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    COSAD - Nov 2, 2006 11:02 pm (# Total: 64)
    A Minnesota based nonprofit organization devoted to enterprise development in Tanzania

    From Artist to Social Entrepreneur

    Hello Friends!

    I commend you all for great caring and for doing what I believe is the highest moral calling: helping others to help themselves through networking and moving ideas. Thanks for sharing the ethics of our common future.

    I started as a music student when I arrived in the United States from Tanzania. But I thought my artistic talents needed to be coupled with business knowledge to enable me make a difference in my community. While in United States I co-founded a nonprofit COSAD (www.cosad.org) devoted to buildin creative partnerships that encourages atristic creativity, entrepreneurship and development in Tanzania.

    using  business models developed during my MBA programs, I am using choirs  as co-oops, bringing them to work toegter not only on artistic fronts but also to address their social and economic challenges.

    My challenges todate: I am working on a project to bring together all the choirs I have been working with to a kind of a Regional Forum of what I have called: All Africa Choral Symposium. The mission of this symposium is to showcase not only cultural creativity of the groups from around local communities but also to share and invigorate the useof their local resources in fighting poverty.

    Any partner out there? Please. I am in Minneapolis Minneota and reached at: projects@cosad.org

    Thank you,

    Smart Baitani

    COSAD Founder and Executive Director,

    Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

    www.cosad.org

     



    tutormentor - Nov 3, 2006 11:49 am (# Total: 64)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Arts/Mentoring Collaboration

    Thank you for introducing COSAD to Social Edge. I work with inner city youth in Chicago and feel that arts can be a tremendous learning and networking activity. Arts can also edu-taine a potential donor audience and help build capacity for the organizations doing this work.

    I encourage you to visit http://www.omidyar.net/user/u715126713/news/1/ where I've been hosting a discussion with an arts leader in Macedonia around the concept of a web site that created a virtual event connecting groups from around the world. Using YouTube and other types of media, your choirs could be part of such a network.

    In addition, I encourage you to visit the LINKS section at http://www.tutormentorconnection.org and add your web site link to the International Arts/Mentoring sub section. This way others who visit our site will find your organization.

    I'll look forward to learning more about you and exploring ways we might work together to increase support for the work we're each doing to help youth.

    Dan Bassill, tutormentor2@earthlink.net


    NaeNae - Nov 3, 2006 1:25 pm (# Total: 64)

    from Nabuur.com volunteer

    Hello, My name is Renee' Weaver and I volunteer online with an organization called nabuur.com

    Currently we are in support of several villages, I am posting for only two here due to current status of their needs. One is for a village in Ronkh, Senegal. The youth of Ronkh have united to create opportunities for themselves by restarting small agribusinesses and organizing vocational training. The first step is to make information on technology, products and markets easily available. To get access to information and learn computer skills the youth wish to start an internet centre. We are currently looking for donations of computers (old and new in good functioning order).

    There is also an orphange that runs on support from a timber business that the village has set up. The costs of transporting the timber from the forest to customers are so high they eat up almost all profit. If nothing is done the orphan's business will go bankrupt leaving them on the streets again. The village needs to buy a timber (at least 20 ton) truck that will help to transport timber to market so that they can continue earning monies to support the orphanage and orphans living there.

    Any resource information, donations, volunteers to help work on  projects for nabuur.com would be very much appreciated. Thank you all for your time and help.

    Please contact me with any information at: Ikhouvanjohn@yahoo.com

    In the subject line please state that you are responding from the Social Edge post.

        Sincerely, Renee' Weaver



    NaeNae - Nov 3, 2006 1:27 pm (# Total: 64)

    Hello, My name is Renee' Weaver and I volunteer online with an organization called nabuur.com

    Currently we are in support of several villages, I am posting for only two here due to current status of their needs. One is for a village in Ronkh, Senegal. The youth of Ronkh have united to create opportunities for themselves by restarting small agribusinesses and organizing vocational training. The first step is to make information on technology, products and markets easily available. To get access to information and learn computer skills the youth wish to start an internet centre. We are currently looking for donations of computers (old and new in good functioning order).

    There is also an orphange that runs on support from a timber business that the village has set up. The costs of transporting the timber from the forest to customers are so high they eat up almost all profit. If nothing is done the orphan's business will go bankrupt leaving them on the streets again. The village needs to buy a timber (at least 20 ton) truck that will help to transport timber to market so that they can continue earning monies to support the orphanage and orphans living there.

    Any resource information, donations, volunteers to help work on  projects for nabuur.com would be very much appreciated. Thank you all for your time and help.

    Please contact me with any information at: Ikhouvanjohn@yahoo.com

    In the subject line please state that you are responding from the Social Edge post.

        Sincerely, Renee' Weaver



    SandraDickinson - Nov 6, 2006 9:32 am (# Total: 64)

    Social Entrepreneurs - making a game to solve the mystery of profitability

    Recently launched: http://selearninggames.wikispaces.com

    Selearninggames is a wikispace for social entrepreneurs to make a learning game together that will solve the mystery of nonprofit earned income venture profitability. 

     

    What’s the game?  It’s making the game! 

     

    The meta-patterns that solve the mystery of profitability are hidden in our collective experience.  Discovering patterns is what makes learning fun!  During the collaborative process of making the game, we will explore our common problems, and common solutions will emerge.  Our tacit knowledge (stuff we don’t know that we know) becomes explicit. 

     

    As we apply, test and refine together, the most effective set of solutions become the meta-patterns accelerating profitability for our own ventures.  These meta-patterns become the design principles of the game we make.

     

    Please join us for fun and profitability!  It’s free.  You can easily edit pages, upload files, join in our discussion.

    Feel free to share this invitation with like-minded folks you know :).   



    COSAD - Nov 14, 2006 6:35 am (# Total: 64)
    A Minnesota based nonprofit organization devoted to enterprise development in Tanzania

    Thanks Dan

    Hi Dan was so nice and kind of you to srop me some advice. I am deeply appreciative of your advice and kindness to promise exploring further avenues through which we may work together.

     

    I look foward to hearing more from you. Thanks kindly, Smart.



    tutormentor - Nov 14, 2006 7:25 am (# Total: 64)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    New Video on YouTube

    Since we've been talking of ways to tell the story, I encourage you to view this video that we added to YouTube yesterday. The link is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8pqrFrhjUc

    This was created for us by a volunteer, which illustrates that an organization does not have to have highly paid professionals on staff to be able to tell its story in creative ways.

    My participation at Social Edge and in other forums is to connect people who have talent, and care about the same cause, but may live in different cities.

    Such people can work together as a network of purpose, and dramatically increase the capacity for many organizations to do good work.


    Mama Matope - Dec 5, 2006 4:20 pm (# Total: 64)

    From Your Hands to their Feet

    On Friday, December 2, 2006 42 cobblers, known as the Shoe Men of Duruma Road in Nairobi, kenya began work on 206 pairs of shoes for the HIV+AIDs Orphans and Abandoned Children of the Mukuru Children's Promotion Centre in Nairobi. This was largely due to the generous discount offered by Mr. Asembo, Fabrication and Production Director of Ashieng Footwear Limited, a fully registered company. The company began when the Nairobi City Council decided to evict vendors from the city streets. Enter Mr. Emmanuel Dureaux a french benefactor, who rented a workshop for the cobblers and who came up with stake, some Sh. 50,000 to open a retail outlet. I became aware of Messrs. Asembo and Dureaux when searching for someone to make 206 pairs of shoes for the children of various ages. My friend, Elizabeth Matunga had outlines of the children's feet to help size the shoes. Mr. Dureaux said there would be no problem. Here in the USA I also had a stack of 206 outlines and informed the residents of our small village of Strasburg, Pennsylvania that outlines were available for #13.50 per pair of feet. These were the feet of the child who would wear them. I held a benefit concert at the First Presbyterian Church in Strasburg and while it wasn't heavily attended due to hunting season and Thanksgiving guests, etc. the people who did attend were very, very generous. Since the concert I have been receiving donations almost every day and while some are for $13.50, some have been as large as $100.00. The largest donation being $500.00 from a single donor. (I did tell them that if we met the shoe goal the money would go for other pressing expenses.) The downpayment for the shoes was made on Monday, December 4th and the balance of the funds was sent to the Mukuru Children's Promotion Centre. Because of the generosity of Mr. Asembo and Mr. Dureax and the very deep discount we received, we had money left over for 206 sweaters, 412 pairs of socks and still a little bit left of the $3,950 we have received to date. With each new e-mail from Salome Wanjiru Kinyanjui I learn of some new difficulty. When I inquired as to how they got their water she replied that they had had running water but "when the water company went into receivership they no longer get tap water, although that is not a point of worry because they get water for free from a water station which a few meters from the orphanage." I can't imagine hauling water for 206 kids no matter how many meters. They order their medications for the kids one month in advance so that they are delivered one week before the month ends. Meds cost over $1,000 a month. So I think it is safe to say if they were to receive $1,000 per month for meds it would help a lot since "they had been losing two or three a month because they did have enough meds." It doesn't seem to me that there is a clear line item for meds because there are sporadic gifts and donations so all I can tell you is what Salome told me they spent $1,000 on meds. Since they have no electricity(!) and the children grow their own food raising goats and rabbits for the rare meal which includes meat it would seem that almost anything we would give them would have a dramatic impact.The shelter is run by the Sisters of Mercy, a catholic order of nuns started in the early 1800's and most of the workers at the shelter are volunteers. I got involved because I sent Elizabeth some small amount of money for a birthday present for her and her daughter and she elected to bring a birthday party to the Shelter and share it with the kids. That's when she began to see the devastating needs. So,so far, I've managed to get $1,000.00 from the Board of Missions from my church and I've still got almost $500.00 send, which I send through Western Union because the banks charge a fortune. Elizabeth and Salome have to hire bodyguards to accompany them from the bank to the centre. They don't have internet because the rats ate the wires and the electricity went out when the wires from the poles rotted out and weren't replaced. So, hey! If you'd like to help some kids "who are preparing for Christmas, and are all excited and sing a lot during this time" you can send me whatever you would be happy to give. I will send it directly to Salome Wanjiru Kinyanjui via Western Union. She will pay the bodyguards $14.00 to accompany her to the bank. It's a whole different world, people. It's a whole different world. My name is Patricia Martin Hunt and I live at 215 Wallingford Road in Strasburg, Pennsylvania. You have to make the check out to cash but you can designate it on the bottom to Mukuru Children's Promotion Centre, Nairobi Kenya and it is tax deductable. This is the most direct way I know to get the money to the people who need it without all the middlemen taking a cut.


    Mae - Jan 9, 2007 8:26 pm (# Total: 64)

    Women's Organization

    Hello All,

    I apart of a wonderful start up womens membership organization. Our mission is "To educate, encourage and empower  women to advance and enrich their personal, professional, social and economical lifestyle by providing development programs and services, tools, resources, networking opportunities and general support from the members of the organization.

    We would like to take this organization worldwide and solve some pressing issues women are still facing here in the US and around the world. We will have created seven core programs, and many resources to offer. Within the seven core problems is where we address social needs and our programs is an attempt to break ground.

    We are in need of advice because we are a start up. Any resources, tools, anything would be greatly appreciated.

    Mae

     



    tutormentor - Jan 10, 2007 10:02 am (# Total: 64)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Spider and the Starfish -good resource

    I am reading the book titled The Starfish and the Spider, by Ori Brafman and Rod Beckstrom.  The sub head is "The unstoppable power of leaderless organizations" 

    It talks about how decentralized organizations work, and how they are united by vision, rather than traditional organizational structure and leadership. I see many similarities to the Tutor/Mentor Connection in this book and encourage others to look at this as a strategy for building support of a cause.

    I wonder if others see themselves in this book, and if so, how?  Mae, I feel this provides ideas for how you spread your ideas around the world.



    Mae - Jan 11, 2007 7:53 am (# Total: 64)

    Thanks

    I will buy the book and starting reading. Thank alot!

    Sep 25, 2006

    The Nonprofit Capacity Conundrum

    Filed Under:

    Hosted by Jonathan Peizer (August 2006 - Closed)

    There is a distinct difference in the way capacity is supported in the non-profit versus other sectors. Nonprofit capacity support is often dictated by external funder objectives and not internal organizational need. Capacity support is viewed by donors as a necessary evil or overhead expense to be minimized.

    From the funder's perspective this is logical. Funders have their own capacity needs to support, and in all practicality, use numerous NGO's for short periods (1-3 years) as operational intermediaries to meet their mission-oriented funding objectives. It is often more 'cost effective' to assume a portion of the grant will be wasted in inefficiencies, than to invest significantly over many years in building the capacity of NGO's the funder works with only intermittently.

    Appreciating that efficiency and effectiveness are two different animals, an NGO can be effective, (thus attracting donor mission support) but still inefficient.

    With philanthropic support weighted so heavily against capacity in favor of mission based grants, nonprofits do not have control of their own institutional capacity investments. Generating income or reaching sustainability is also elusive because of the lack of initial support a nonprofit receives to build that expertise out.

    Technology capacity represents a special challenge because of the issue of perpetual obsolescence and reinvestment that must occur.

    Technology is often a part of an organization's operational capacity investment and often suffers from a lack or resourcing along with other priority operational areas. Successful use of technology in other sectors is often more about having a good technician or technologist than any specific technology. However, this personnel is often out of reach of most NGO's that cannot afford to employ them on staff.

    1) What viable ways exist to provide support to nonprofits so they can use technology effectively in this type of support environment?

    2) Are technology support organizations like NPower, Compumentor, etc. the answer and can they meet the needs of nonprofits of all sizes and issue areas?

    3) Are there technologies like ASP's that can allow nonprofits to leverage technology without as significant a need for technology support?

    4) Are there different ways nonprofits can invest in their technology capacity in the early stages and maintain that investment?

    5) Is mission-based support using technology best done through other institutional or networked arrangements and not nonprofits?

    Join the conversation here.



    Jeff.Mowatt - Aug 1, 2006 11:39 pm (# Total: 25)
    P-CED

    Driven by technology

    Well I'm for looking at it the other way round, using a software business as a revenue generator for core funding. Here on Social Edge in the past I've advocated for doing the same with VOIP and WIMAX, both capable of immense revenue generating possiblities.

    So, why not turn it on its head, recognise the revenue power of information and appreciate in the broadest possible interpretation what Alvin Toffler meant by "If you don't create your own strategy, you become part of someone else's"


    beautiful complexity - Aug 2, 2006 5:02 am (# Total: 25)

    Integration of Technology into the Mission

    I agree Jeff, I am in the early stages of developing a social enterprise with IT & Communications training and skills development for youth as one component.  I am engaging the local IT communities, colleges & universities as well as private enterprises to tell me what that looks like.  People support what they help to design and build.

    In today's information economy, a non profit that lags behind in technology may become a liability to advance their mission.  There are many technology savvy people who can help and want to help - its finding the right match.  Some NGO's & Non profits do not have a good enough understanding of how technology can add to their mission.  Perhaps a targeted capacity building exercise to engage local tech people (from all areas not just web site design)  A technical communityforum or design charrette and let those that know see how they can help. 

     



    vicknj - Aug 2, 2006 6:21 am (# Total: 25)

    Training,Training,

    2) Are technology support organizations like N Power, Compumentor, etc. the answer and can they meet the needs of nonprofits of all sizes and issue areas?

    I am not sure if they can.  At all of the jobs and volunteer organizations I have been affiliated with, and some of the organizations had a ton of money, no one knew of any of these organizations, not even techsoup.  I found out about them, by researching ways to learn more about technology in NGOs. 

    4) Are there different ways nonprofit can invest in their technology capacity in the early stages and maintain that investment?

    Training, training, training.  At a place I previously worked at, individuals barely knew how to use excel. And the concept of using the very expensive database/constituent managmenet software we had effectively was something viewed as "inconsiquential" "not important" More important was individuals focussing on developing Ideas, but when it came to implement those ideas,individuals were at a loss.  Training, needs to be at the forfront of any good office, with staff who never were taught how to use outlook, excell, and the concept of a Blog whats that? I am being serious, many NGOs just have no concept.

    I think a big part of getting NGOs to use Technology is going to come from a new generation of leaders.  I am currently in a Masters of Public Administration Program and we have to take on course on NGOs and Technology and I am looking forward to the class.  So far, in my classes students seam to think that "Technology" is a luxury most NGOs can't afford.  They have no idea of the free software, tech support etc..that is out there.  Plus, moving forward, funders and donors are demanding more thourough evaluations, that require organizations to keep accurate records, and data.

    Lastly, I think Technologists, need to back away from some of the jargon, and also remember, that not every NGO needs to have the best, and they have to realize that they may understand technology, but they most likely don't understand the fundamentals of what, why, and how, things need to be tracked.  It is a different way of thinking.  I feel fortunate, that I along with other individuals out there, have managed to bridge the Gap between "Technologist" which I would say I am to a degree, and "donor/board/fundraising relations".  I understand why things need to created and formed in a certain way in a database.  I don't understand computer code or anything, but I understand what NGOs need.  And as more and more thrity somethings get involved in philanthropy, they are gonig to only get involved if the orgnaizaiton is trustworthly, efficient, and has some sort of way to be involved online.. Vicks



    Jeff.Mowatt - Aug 2, 2006 11:44 am (# Total: 25)
    P-CED

    That's right, a conventional business model will be inadequate, so it starts with a new paradigm originating from a ten year old whitpaper:

    http://www.p-ced.com/page2.asp

    By way of an incredible coincidence, I also found this today with a worldwide press announcement planned for tomorrow.

    http://www.commonwealthconnects.net

    "National strategies are essential to produce and realize the benefits of using ICTs as a tool for economic and social development. Many developing countries, however, lack ready access to the policy knowledge and expertise necessary to develop and implement effective ICT strategies at the national level. Although committed to the process of modernizing their legal and policy regimes, the required expertise in areas like telecommunications policy and regulation, spectrum policies, electronic law and policy, connectivity strategies and e‑government is often unavailable. Limited policy resources also hinder the ability of lesser developed countries to participate in policy‑making process internationally, thereby reducing their capacity to influence the global evolution of ICTs, including the world‑wide management of the Internet."


    jpeizer - Aug 2, 2006 12:21 pm (# Total: 25)
    Jonathan Peizer

    Will try to answer all three observations above in one missive [re-edited]

    I think it needs to be appreciated that there are literally millions of nonprofits out there already. *MOST*, not some, have these issues. I am afraid it's somewhat simplistic to assume a traditional business model is the solution for all of them with a revenue generating business on the side or as part of their organization.

    In today's economy MOST nonprofits do lag behind in technology. While there may be many technology folks, they understand tech, not necessarily the mission of nonprofits. Technology also reaches obsolescence and needs upgrading and replacement. This requires long term volunteer commitment from folks in supporting organizations chronically short of this expertise in-house.

    There are many war stories of people coming in from the for-profit sector "to help", but who don't make the perceptual transition between a sector that focuses on objective bottom lines to one that focuses on subjective mission – with a totally different currency based on trusted source relationships that define the value, real & perceived, of the organization.

    During the .dot com revolution many thought they could just apply business strategy and operation to the nonprofit context and everything would work out -- actually that's about as appropriate as transplanting business management processes to government -- and we've seen how well that works. What I mean is, just as you can't apply a business practice where the Executive Branch reigns supreme in a three branch system designed to support a "balance of power", simply applying a bottom-line model to a mission focused system with a different currency has its challenges as well. These sectors are recognized as distinct because they actually do operate differently. There are elements of processes each of the sectors use that might benefit the other – but there has to be a contextual translation and adaptation for them to work.

    I am all for finding a revenue stream to support sustainable capacity, or a process of technology support that is sustainable, but in doing so a nonprofit must always credibly meet its mission. Taking into account that the sectors both perceive and operate differently, there are also many stories of VC's seeing a social enterprise and saying -- "that's great", just strip the [social components] of that idea out and we'll invest. They don't actively look to strip out the social components -- it's just that these components, which provide the currency credibility within the nonprofit sector, are also the elements that make the enterprise the least profitable – from where they sit.

    The reality is that meeting a social mission and being sustainable and profitable are not particularly easy to do – because our system is based on a form of aggressive capitalism that compromise the bottom line as “pollutions” that must be stricken from the system. Conversely, from the nonprofit perspective, these same elements are what create the value, trusted source relationships and credibility [e.g. the currency] to operate in their sector. Its not surprisig that both Canada and the UK have far more innovative and large scale social enterprises -- because their history of social democracy allows them to tolerate compromising some bottom line performance to promote quality of life issues. In our system, the motto is get rich and you can pay for all this stuff yourself without having to depend on anyone. Unfortunately, the nonprofit sector assumes dependence -- extending selfless help to others as a part of the mission. Again, I am not saying that one can't balance the two - mission and sustainability, but that its far easier if the underlying dynamics are not simplified, but rather understood and designed for. There will always be a tension between the two in our system -- just as there is a tension in newsrooms -- about editorial content and bottom line objectives (media being the best example of a for profit business that has to wrestle with these issues all the time). It's certainly possible to point to individual examples of nonprofits that have managed to develop around revenue generating social enterprise -- but my focus is on the meta-level, dealing with the millions of nonprofits that operate in an existing construct and how to deal with the capacity issue in that context.

    Concerning Npower and Compumentor, if they can operationally meet the challenge – consciousness-raising is a promotional issue to deal with on top of that. I do agree that new tech-savvy leadership that prioritize IT differently will make a major impact, but that's 15-20 years off in the nonprofit sector before that impact is felt and the older senior decision makers are replaced -- right now you have young people and middle managers fighting with the hierarchy to change mindsets and do thing differently.

    When this change occurs it will deal with another issue mentioned -- Training - which nonprofits also say they don't have time and money for. If you insert a person who grew up with computers and understands their benefits into decision making positions, you achieve the "instant training effect". On the other hand this won’t necessarily solve the choric capacity issues nonprofits face unless capacity support is really done differently a al an aggregated model that Compumentor, Npower, Techsoup, Aspiration, etc. provide.

    It will be interesting to see how the youth and technology social enterprise mentioned above works out, but that may be the easiest example to make work – as apposed to setting something similar up for a domestic violence or human rights NGO. Some models, like training/education and health, lend themselves to sustainability models because people have a long history of paying for these services. For example, I worked for a student exchange organization that got most of its support from fees as a nonprofit. However, in the Human Rights example, if you “recognize the power of the information” and try to sell it, you may very well be conflicting with a mission that says you need to disseminate the information as far and wide as you can without restrictions [e.g. stopping people from getting it by making them pay]. This is not a hypothetical -- one of the largest and most trusted HR organizations has this issue each time it tries to create revenue generating enterprise to support itself.


    Jeff.Mowatt - Aug 2, 2006 12:56 pm (# Total: 25)
    P-CED

    Social purpose business

    Jonathan, on this I beg to differ. If this were the case, USAID funding would not have been given for the Tomsk Regional Initiative and proof of concept would not exist. Neither would funding have been approved for the repatriated Crimean Tatar community. The business model is and must be built around strong anti-corruption measures and must also include the incentive for social purpose as well as being commercially competitive. What I sse, rather than the simplicity offered by social purpose business is a multiplicity of complex schemes and organisational models attempting to harness capital within a traditional chraritable structure, the conventional understanding of non-profit. With repayable seed funding we avoid venture capital for the very reasons you cite.The Tomsk pilot for example returning investment ahead of target with 10,000 small businesses created and 98% of loans repaid.

    Just for the purpose of illustation, I'd like to show a pricing plan recently deployed by the for-profit sector backed by US venture capital. Hold in mind, those who are unfamiliar with the territory, that this is in a country where the median wage is around $160/month.

    http://www.witel.com.ua/ru/plain445

    Now if we can't do better than that, we have no business being in business, let alone social purpose.


    tutormentor - Aug 2, 2006 4:18 pm (# Total: 25)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Move from two way to three way model

    I think finding ways to change the way non profits, or social benefit organizations, are funded would go a long way toward addressing the technology issues within non profits. I encourage you all to read the article, "The Looking-Glass World of Nonprofit Money: Managing in For-Profits’ Shadow Universe, by Clara Miller " which is at http://www.nonprofitquarterly.org/section/704.html

    As Jonathan has pointed out, there are millions of social benefit organizations that are dependent on various types of philanthropy and public funding to do quality work in many places.

    Another publication I'd point to is the Jim Collins book titled "Good to Great and the Social Sector".  The key point here is that great for profit organizations and great social benefit organizations have many things in common. What they don't have is the same process for generating revenue and capital.

    If we cannot find a way to build sustainable revenue into thousands of social benefit organizations doing the same work, but in different places, we'll never enable these groups to grow from good to great, or spend the time on task needed to achieve the outcomes donors want.

    I address these issues in my leadership of the Tutor/Mentor Connection.  My goal is to help kids born in poverty be starting jobs by age 25. This then, requires up to 25  years of support, per kid, to succeed.

    The traditional way we raise money makes this almost impossible. Thus I'm trying to create a three way partnership to achieve social benefit vs the traditional two way model (where the social benefit organization generates revenue by being good at fund raising or by selling services to generate revenew). 

    Here's my example:  In Chicago there are nearly 135,000 kids attending poorly performing schools and all would benefit from non-school volunteer-based tutor/mentor programs.  The earlier we connect with a youth and the longer we stay connected, the greater the benefit. If volunteers who started mentoring kids when they are in 5th grade are still around to open doors to collge scholarships, work internships, and job interviews when the kids are between age 18-25, we'd have a much greater impact. However, it takes long-term programs to build these connections.

    I have around 150 tutor/mentor locations in my database and in total these probably serve less than 15,000 kids per year.  Not all of these programs is equally good at generating revenue and very few, if any, have business operations that generate revenue. We're serving kids in poverty so fees for services are out of the question. Very few of these organizations have been operating and keeping volunteers involved for 10 or more  years. Very few have an internet strategy that connects youth, volunteers and alumni.

    So, there are too few programs and most of the existing programs don't have sufficient revenue to constantly improve what they do. There's very little revenue to create new programs to fill voids .... at least through the existing two-way relationship between program and donor.

    A three-way model includes the service provider, the people served, and those who want to see the problem addressed.  For instance, how many people in the Chicago business community want to see an end to poverty, an improvement in education outcomes, less violence, and a higher quality workforce?  

    If they want the outcome, then we need to innovate ways to make them partners who share the vision, commitment and are investing in the various organizations that need to be in place to generate the desired result.  Everyone understands a blueprint for building a building and everyone understands that all of the sub contractors and construction workers need to be paid.

    Until we harness technology, and GIS information systems, mind mapping, auto cad and a variety of other visual communications tools to create a "blueprint" that educates donors/stakeholders about what the mission and process of our organizations are, we won't be able to enlist them as long term partners who will provide more consistent revenue in many zip codes to build great organizations doing important work.

    Within that bluepint we'll need to show the uses of technolopgy and the costs of putting technology to work in all of the organizations needed to achieve the desired outcomes.

    While this sounds a bit "future thinking" the Internet, and forums like this, create the ability for people to come together from different parts of the world to create internet based visions that might move us closer to this three way model that I'm describing.

    On a scale of 1 to 100, I'm at about a 2 in making this vision a reality. But I'm driven by the reality that if we don't change the funding, we don't succeed with the mission in very many places, or in the lives of very many kids.  So I keep trying. You can see the progress my group has made so far at the http://www.tutormentorconnection.org web site.

     



    Jeff.Mowatt - Aug 3, 2006 12:57 am (# Total: 25)
    P-CED

    Third party interest

    TutorMentor, you have nailed it, the third party which cannot do other than share an interest in a common future. Taking your illusration of the Chicago business community having a vested interest in the social environment, I'd like to offer an extreme illustration of the same principle.

    Oleg is a nuclear physicist living in a town where the SS-18 Satan missile was once manufactured. He is poor, poor in the sense that he asks me if I can help him find work overseas given he can no longer support his family, any manual work. Recently he'd been willing to go to Canada as a hotel skivvy but it turned out to be a recruting scam, that's how desperate he is. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to guess where his primary skills might be more than welcome.

    Fortunately, Oleg is not so inclined, being rather more focussed on his crusade to do something which in some way follows your own ideals. He wants his country to be one of those taking on the Negroponte OLPC. I have seen correspondence between him and MIT and they are certainly interested and yet he faces two almost insurmountable problems, raising the campaign to the required national level and funding this effort. He blogs, describing a personal meeting with George Soros 13 years ago, attemting to make a case for what he does based on his interpretation of Soros Theory.

    Now I think I know Oleg well enough to say that this kind of man isn't going to be seduced by employment in Iran, but he's not the only local physicist in dire economic straits.

    Now while we jig around with legal models, inventing new jargon we overlook the most basic of truths, individuals and businesses both have a vested interest in ending poverty before poverty ends all of us, be it individually on our hostile streets or totally in Armegeddon.

    It's so simple to throw away the jargon and start investing in our business models to make them inclusive, good business which not only takes account of the employees needs but also invests in social beneficial activity and provides funds for likeminded business start up in turn.

    This kind of business harnesses all the power of capitalism and transmutes its predatory nature, living alonside and outperforming venture capitalist's efforts to the point that one day, like the dinosaurs we'll look at them unbelieving in our museum exhibits.

    P-CED made this a reality in Russia of all places and without even considering the social outcome, results from the microfinance bank which FINCA got to manage speak for themselves:

    http://www.villagebanking.org/work-ind_rus.htm


    JessicaMargolin - Aug 3, 2006 6:38 pm (# Total: 25)

    Two big issues

    Jonathan, I wholeheartedly agree: the culture of a non-profit is based on the understanding that because they're basically begging for their revenue stream, they must control their expenses.

    While this isn't so much different from a product manager who must lobby for his or her budget every year from the company founder, it's the opposite of how entrepreneurs and funders think (and many people in larger corporations), and until the latter can manage to see the POV of the former, there won't be one working with the other, there will be the social entrepreneurs supplanting some traditional non-profits, and then wondering why what they're doing doesn't work (which will, in fact, be because of blasting over the domain expertise of those "losers" who didn't "get" the topline growth model).

    Jeff, I agree with the concept of socially oriented businesses, but I see these more successfully encroaching on traditional businesses' turf by much more quickly understanding how to manage intangible assets. In other words, socially responsible companies should be more profitable IF they develop systems to become profitable while maintaining those things that are truly valuable (i.e. employee health, morale, efficient deployment of intellectual, spiritual and social talent, etc.). As investors figure out how to analyze and invest in these companies, then we'll see the metamorphosis, really, we must see. Because otherwise....

    -Jessica Margolin
    http://www.margolin-consulting.com


    JessicaMargolin - Aug 3, 2006 6:50 pm (# Total: 25)

    ... and what I've done.

    I've recently had to go through this precise drill - bring technology to a well-established and successful non-profit that delivers about 95% straight to programs, the rest of the budget being fundraising overhead (everyone's a volunteer).

    Worse than the lack of money - which we budgeted for eventually - was the lack of time to go through the systematic process of choosing software the "real" way: what do people need? Where will this be going? etc. This is as it would be in any corporate environment that had virtually no technology infrastructure (can you even imagine that, now?) but knew it needed one: a distributed group, everyone had their own computers, files scattered everywhere, volunteers working on specific projects stove-pipe style.

    We all understood the organizational risks inherent in this kind of infrastructure, where everyone is a Key "Man."

    So here's a solution

    Or at least a different way of thinking about it: instead of looking at technology as infrastructure, it might be necessary to look at it as an organizational risk management structure. Buying appropriate technology is "insurance." As overhead goes, the insurances that need to be carried aren't as suspect as technology: one sounds like an unsexy annoyance, the other like a toy.

    So that's the first solution: recasting technology investment not as something looking for an ROI, but as something that manages risk - specifically the risk of not fulfilling the mission. Remember, for-profits' mission is to make more money, but non-profits can exist pretty effectively on a shoestring precisely because the "currency" needed to fulfill the mission isn't necessarily financial.

    So the second suggestion

    It would be great if the vendors saw this: one of the problems with the open development environments is that assuming there's always a developer/integrator around when you need 'em is about the same as assuming anything else. However, as we know, anyone can misuse a graphic template and come up with a monstrous but workable flyer (I confess!...). However, engineering is different - it is not the best solution to assume that even most non-profits have ready access to people who understand the workflow of the non-profit and the tactical details of the mission AND who can integrate open source or even develop applications.

    Organizations who can provide the skill of integrating the code, with different program areas of expertise (rather than the code) would be a "missing link" that could be addressed by social entrepreneurs, but be ready for the type of price scrutiny that causes organizations to accept cash or check only because credit card fees are "so HIGH!"

    Perhaps one way around the price sensitivity there is to develop curriculum in Computer Science labs in Colleges and Universities that has project assignments requiring such integrations in exchange for domain expertise in the program area.

    -Jessica Margolin
    http://www.margolin-consulting.com


    jpeizer - Aug 7, 2006 10:23 am (# Total: 25)
    Jonathan Peizer

    Trying to address the variety of really good input

    Jessica,

    "While this isn't so much different from a product manager who must lobby for his or her budget every year from the company founder"

    I'd like to address this example above. My central point is that in the current funding system, nonprofits, unlike other sectors, often don't control their resources, and therefore, are not completely in control of meeting their financial priorities. In the example you provide, its reasonable to assume that in one private sector entity everyone shares the bottom line goal and corporate mission. So, in this case, you are trying to define priorities within the same institutional context. In the Nonprofit sector however, the issue is not a program coordinator trying to convince senior management (a more similar comparison) but the management of one institution trying to convince another for support. The latter example is closer to an institution trying to get a loan from a bank -- where the dividends returned are social and the funders perception and calculations of social returns differ from the nonprofit. The institution funding and the institution needing resources often share different missions, perceptions and end goals.

    If you'd like more on this see this article:

    Nonprofit Philanthropy: More Charles Darwin than Adam Smith? http://internautconsulting.com/articles-philanthropy.shtm

    My favorite example of this phenomenon is the Red Cross post-9/11. It which made an appropriate *business decision* to saving some of the donations and resources sent on the assumption another attack would come -- This speaks to your point about intelligent ways of dealing with risk as well? However, the constituents sending money in were so outraged that their funds weren't going for THE 9/11 attack that it created a controversy that forced the senior Red Cross Director to be ousted from her board. This is a salient example of the organization and its donor base having a totally different set of priorities -- and the reason standard, reasonable business decision making can be so hard for a nonprofit to make when other control the purse strings.

    Tutormentor,

    "If they want the outcome, then we need to innovate ways to make them partners who share the vision, commitment and are investing in the various organizations that need to be in place to generate the desired result. Everyone understands a blueprint for building a building and everyone understands that all of the sub contractors and construction workers need to be paid."

    I agree with this, as long as the various sectors sitting around the table appreciate the differences in a variety of operational factors and priorities between the sectors before they can implement successfully. Too often these partnerships are forged and never get off the drawing board (or a white paper sitting on a shelf) because there is too little appreciation of how each sector perceives time, ROI versus SROI, who each sector is beholden to and the different capital (money, trusted source, political) each sector uses to advance its decision making. Everyone wants a ceasefire in Lebanon, but on their own terms. The same is true when people go in to these types of partnerships assuming their own set of behaviors, priorities and mindsets are shared by others in the group across sectors. I cover this The Dynamics or Technology for Social Change.

    Jeff,

    I understand your points. I can also point to a number of personally successful examples at OSI where we created socially responsible programs to meet local needs and then sold off these ISP's as revenue generating commercial entities. Paul Meyer did the same founding IPKO in Kosovo. The issue is these are exceptions rather than the rule -- often started by visionary implementers and funders -- but they run counter to the overall system that is in place and the dynamics behind it.

    My focus is on the larger system and the factors that limit the wholesale change you suggest and that both of us would like to see. Unfortanately, ignoring them will probably mean that examples of success will continue to be only that, examples -- and not the way the entire system works.

    - Jonathan Peizer


    JessicaMargolin - Aug 7, 2006 11:14 am (# Total: 25)

    Jonathan,

    Yes, I agree with the idea that non-profits can't control their revenues, that's why I said "Jonathan, I wholeheartedly agree: the culture of a non-profit is based on the understanding that because they're basically begging for their revenue stream, they must control their expenses."

    To which you responded: "My central point is that in the current funding system, nonprofits, unlike other sectors, often don't control their resources, and therefore, are not completely in control of meeting their financial priorities. In the example you provide, its reasonable to assume that in one private sector entity everyone shares the bottom line goal and corporate mission."

    It wasn't an example; it was an analogy - specifically an analogy drawn from the corporate world to show how this feeling is present there also.

    I'd also like to correct ths mistaken impression that shared mission of bottom-line motivation is a reasonable assumption. A corporate manager does not often share the bottom line mission of the corporation at all. Often managers become very selfishly motivated in corporations precisely because corporations often subscribe to the concept that that is what being a good economic citizen is all about. By selfish motivation, this means choosing programs that have short term highly visible positive progress, regardless of overall bottom-line effect. Because of this, lobbying upwards for money in a corporation is half "is this a good program?" and half "do you want my political efforts to succeed?" Roughly. Some environments are better than others, but so long as "enlightened self-interest" is considered the major motivating factor for all intelligent, competent economic decisions, distrust is sown.

    It's against this backdrop that I urge you to look again at the problems with the Red Cross decision and its aftermath: with the idea that the process of allocating resources is often corrupt (many peoples' work experience is in corporations, not non-profits) or at least selfishly motivated, people thought that by selecting a reputable non-profit amidst natural disaster relief, funds will go where they were TOLD they were going to go. It is not inconsequential that the Red Cross raised funds saying, specifically, that this was Katrina relief, and not by saying "relief for natural disasters, LIKE Katrina."

    Hence the sense of betrayal. There were many organizations requesting funds to help, and in fact many individuals who went to help; people could have chosen any number of places to donate their cash. Red Cross was perceived as the most "solid," but also one of the most corporate-like, and hence I believe it got caught up in the general cynicism most Americans have when asked to trust corporate financial decision-making.


    tutormentor - Aug 7, 2006 11:18 am (# Total: 25)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    just getting people to the table is an almost impossible challenge

    Jonathan,

    Thanks for your analysis. You wrote "as long as the various sectors sitting around the table appreciate the differences in a variety of operational factors and priorities between the sectors before they can implement successfully. "

    In my message I used the word "innovate". For us to reach a point where the various stakeholders understand each other and agree to common goals we first need to innovate ways to bring more of these stakeholders into the conversation. Then we need to innovate ways to motivate people to act based on their capacity to act, and to encourage a distribution of action and resources to all of the places where kids need help (or where any other social issue is a concern).

    Imagine something like MySpace, which has so many users, totally devoted to creating a shared understanding of a specific social issue (AIDS, HUNGER, Katrina, Tutoring/mentoring, etc). What are the steps to get from where we are now to that point in the future. Who are the people who need to be putting this creativity to work on this goal? How do we get them involved?

    Since the path from here to there may take decades, what are the ways people can act, without a consensus? The strategy I propose is based on no overall agreement on what a tutor/mentor program is or what are the few ways people should all get involved. Instead I provide three type of information

    a) a map of Chicago and a database of organizations who offer various forms of tutoring/mentoring. They all have common needs for volunteers, donors, tech support, etc.

    b) an extensive library of information that anyone can draw from to learn more about poverty and the ways volunteer-involvement might help kids move through school to careers

    c) events sequenced strategically throughout the year that invite people to come together to share information and build relationships, while creating public visibility, and drawing resources to the programs in our database.

    As long as I can maintain the database, and send out an invitation for people to be a volunteer or donor in one of the listed programs, or come together to learn from each other, or to come to the web site to find information, I maintain a key role in a) drawing immediately needed resources to individual programs; and b) building a growing network of people who are talking to each other.

    As people in other cities duplicate this, and people in other institutions add their support, we accelerate the process of getting a quorum to the table and building an understanding of actions that anyone can take, at any time, to make a difference in the lives of kids living in poverty.

    My goal is to provide a template that others can use for thir own leadership, and for innovation and improvement. As other cities form T/MC strategies I can learn from them to improve what I do. We might even collaborate on shared strategies which enable more than one city to grow its impact faster and at less cost.

    I recognize that change does not happen quickly, but that change will ever happen without a consistent application of time and talent toward a goal.

    As Maragaret Mead wrote,it only takes a few people to change the world. I'm sure she must have also written about how difficult this is, and how long it takes.


    benson_matt01@yahoo.com - Aug 7, 2006 3:08 pm (# Total: 25)

    WILLING TO HELP.............

    Hello,
       I am Ben from England and we are looking for a representative in the Unites states who will be working for us as a partime worker and we are willing to pay 10% for every transaction,which wouldnt affect ur present state of work,if u are interested pls get back to me.
     
    First, i would like to know your Age, Sex and Location, and what you do for a living. I am 38 male from England and i work for Rose household Textiles Ltd Uk in the Human Resource Dept.

    The company name is Rose Household Textiles Ltd. Uk and we are located in Khan House, Chattley Street in Manchester, Lancashire Uk.
     
    Our main factory and head office is located in Uk were but we also have a factory in wst Africa where we get most of the cotton which we use in manufacturing our products.

    You can check our website to get more info on what we manufacture and supply and if you wish to know more about us. http://www.rose-household.co.uk

    We manufacture duvets,pillows,bedlinen, covers, mink blankets, satin bedspread. These are the main Products which we manufacture and supply to our customers.
     
    These products are being supplied to our customers who are in the united states and some other countries around the world.
     
    we are looking for a representative in the Unites states, someone who would help us recieve payments from our customers in the United states.
    We are willing to pay 10% per every payment you recieve and you can still keep your regular job while you work for us.

    These payments are in Checks and Money Orders and they would come to you in your name to your location,
     
    So all you need to do is to receive these checks or Money orders (it would be delivered to you by FEDEX or UPS to your loation)
     
    As soon as you receive it, you take it to your bank and cash it, Then you take 10% of the money and send the balance to us through western union money transfer. he transfer fee would be from our part.
     
    The problem we have is trust,But we have our way of getting anyone that gets away with our money,i mean the FBI......... So the question i have for you is can we trust you with our Money.
     
    So if we can trust you and you are interested in this offer, you are to provide the following info: The Name that would be on the check, The address it would be mailed to, your direct contact phone number, and your email address.
    FULL NAME
    ADDRESS
    PHONE NUMBER
    EMAIL ADDRESS
     
    It wouldnt cost you any amount.you are to receive payments which will be sent to u by fedex or usps from our business patners, which would come in a cashiers cheque or money order, then u are to cash it and send to us via western union money transfer.

    KNDLY GTE BACK TO ME ON..............  benson_matt01@yahoo.com



    jpeizer - Aug 8, 2006 1:27 pm (# Total: 25)
    Jonathan Peizer

    Jessica - my "job" here is to be provacative ;)

    My original point was not just that nonprofits have to control their expenses because they rely on others for money. It's that nonprofits can't even allocate the money they have correctly because the funding paradigm is skewed towards supporting mission based projects at the expense of capacity support -- as are the nonprofit's objectives very often. Hence if a nonprofit is given $100 it doesn't allocate that money equally, nor do the grant requirments of most funders allow it. The funders will typically put a 10%-20% cap on admin fees. So $80-$90 of that $100 goes to mission -- even if that mission is done more inefficienty than it could otherwise be because of the lack of organizational capacity. Every funder makes a subconscious decision every time they fund, that X% of their support will be wasted due to systemic limitation in a nonprofit's organizational capacity.

    Regarding the analogy. Personal selfishness aside, I think there is still a difference between the employee who signs on to a company and has legally defined loyalty responsibilities to it when defining budgetary priorities within that context and a nonprofit trying to convince another organization - a funder or VC, that their funding priorities should be the same. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, but my experience indicates companies have clear bottom line objectives and nonprofits don't. When I was working at Citicorp I knew what they were and what they wanted. When I worked for various nonprofits and even foundations the mission was far more subject to the interpretation of the individual employee. Citicorp for instance wanted to be THE global financial institution, full stop. While OSI worked to promote "Open Societies".

    Related to the Red cross example, I was actually referring to 9/11 and not Katrina, the point being that the Red Cross did assess risk as you indicated and made an intelligent business decision. I agree with you that people might feel betrayed and that they'd prefer their donations of clothes and blood rot in a warehouse waiting for dispersal for THE disaster they allocated it to (and they did in fact) rather than to have it allocated for the next disaster. However, that is exactly my point, the logical business decison, to allocate the resources in order to best effect the objective bottom line and increase value to the STOCKHOLDERS - is not necessarily the same rational decision that can be made in support of a nonprofit's STAKEHOLDERS who react subjectively and more emotionally even if the business decision being made is completly rational.

    Which is a nice seguay to Tutor mentor's point. It's great bringing people to the table and I have no doubt you have developed good tools to do so, but once their they need to have not only shared commitment but shared perceptions, objectives and operational plans before things actually get done. I've worked with donors that had millions to give away but could not get to first base in working out a shared vision and operational plan to make anything useful happen on the ground.

    RGDS

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    tutormentor - Aug 8, 2006 2:05 pm (# Total: 25)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    This is a starting point

    Jonathan wrote, "but once their they need to have not only shared commitment but shared perceptions, objectives and operational plans before things actually get done. I've worked with donors that had millions to give away but could not get to first base in working out a shared vision and operational plan to make anything useful happen on the ground."

    The challenge is using forums like Social Edge, Omidyar.net and others to bring people to the process who have the talent, and commitment, to try to create these shared visions.

    If I were drawing a diagram it would be a circle. To get the people to the table and facilitate shared understanding and shared visions requires considerable talent and lots of time. Getting funders to invest in this type of capacity building, or volunteers to donate talent consistently to the process, is like searching through a sand dune for a particular grain of sand.

    However, just because the challenge seems impossible does not remove the responsibility for some to try to innovate a solution.

    I share your feelings about how the system does not work. This drives me every day to try to find a better way.


    polarbears - Aug 8, 2006 2:16 pm (# Total: 25)

    WILLING TO HELP.... Ben from England

    Hello Ben,

    I am interested in your offer but I am leery of giving my information to you as your site is under construction leaving me to wonder, how legit this offer is.....  But I am looking for part time work from home and this is something I can do and still be home for my children.  So How do I know this is real?

    Regards, Renee'



    JessicaMargolin - Aug 8, 2006 2:19 pm (# Total: 25)

    Hence my proposed suggestions

    Jonathan, I do realize you feel your job is to provoke, but I thought it should be to provoke debate towards a solution. I was speaking about Katrina and you about 9/11, but without quibbling whether the donations in questions were fungible dollars or perishable food, or whether the point that something is an analogy does in fact mean it is alike in some ways but not entirely identical, let me say that I'm not seeing a lot of discussion towards solutions or even hypothesizing frameworks.

    Assuming we basically agree: non-profits have an issue where they perceive, because of their historical practices or reality or fantasy or whatever, that either donors will disapprove of infrastructure investment or that the non-profit decision makers, themselves, are more anxious about spending non-program funds for other reasons -- how does one address that? What does the solution space look like?

    Are solutions educational? Are they methodological? Processes, laws? Is there an infrastructure that needs to be built (that used to be what governments do, but... okay)? What type of reform?


    tutormentor - Aug 9, 2006 6:47 am (# Total: 25)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Solutions - What do we already know?

    Among the links categories I have on the http://www.tutormentorconnection.org web site is one titled "creativity and innovation". Included are links to a number of organizations that offer insight on this process.

    My suggestion of a path to a solution would be to begin to collect and host information that already exists, which points to donors or non profits who seem to be a little further ahead than anyone else in addressing this issue.

    By hosting this information on the internet, we can point to it as reading, or innovation material, for others who are looking for ways to solve the problem.

    For instance, in the philanthropy links on my site I point to organizations who are focusing on funding general operations and I point to the Lend A Hand Program that raises money from lawyers to fund tutor/mentor programs.

    In the education section I point to the UCLA Center for Mental Health in Schools, where they have a white paper that advocates for elevating "learning supports" to an equal priority to "curriculum and leadership" as school reform priorities.

    This information can be used by anyone who visits my sites as a starting point, or stimulation, for their own innovations.

    Thus, if someone has begun to build a web library with links to business, philanthropy, or others who have begun to find solutions to the funding conundrum, this would be a good starting point for others who want to understand or solve the problem.


    jpeizer - Aug 9, 2006 1:19 pm (# Total: 25)
    Jonathan Peizer

    Some Solutions

    Jessica: Serendipitously, the debate and your question has helped us arrive at a point of resolution and insight about TutorMentor and its solution sets. ;)

    I believe the solution lies in 1. actually changing the paradigm for providing capacity support within the current system 2. dealing more realistically with the funder and nonprofit relationship and 3. meeting the perceptual and operational needs of both. I address this in the book but a quick article can be found at:

    The Quiet Revolution in Nonprofit Capacity Support http://internautconsulting.com/articles-nonprofitcapacity.shtm

    As a natural evolution of the chronic dysfunction of nonprofit capacity support a number of intermediary organizations have sprung up to address this need. They are NGO's with sustainability paradigms that specialize in specific areas of capacity suport, providing this support to other NGOs. The solution is actually developing before us by a set of the most progressive donors and NGOS's out of frustration for the current system. Its natural evolution poits to the fact that is demand rather than supply based. However, it is still not being addressed strategically and systemically by the funder/NGO sector to leverage it to best advantage.

    Rather than dealing with capacity as purely an internal issue that individual non profits can't afford -- these Intermediary Support Organizations (ISOs) provide what I call "exo-capacity support" to groups of nonprofits -- and since their mission *is* capacity support they are easier for donors to get their minds around then the idea of supporting the individual capacity need of each NGO with a mission-based funding request. These organizations also have self-sustainability paradigms. The issue is we are still not strategically linking them to each other. The cited article explains the entire premise including what is neccesary to make them more efficient. To summarize the article, some of the benefits of funding and providing capacity in this manner are:

    The ISO model is far more efficient because it allows for the introduction of standards of service/support delivery and sharing best practices across institutional clients.

    ISOs provide pragmatic service at a lower entry cost to fellow NGOs than most of their for-profit counterparts. They are also far more trusted because the provider organizations share a basic set of mission principles similar to the nonprofits they serve. T

    Many ISOs collect significant and invaluable meta-data on a statistically relevant number of nonprofit clients. This data can be used to identify strengths and deficiencies on a sector-wide basis.

    ISOs offer a realistic opportunity to solicit donor support for capacity using a behavioral funding pattern they already subscribe to rather than changing the entire paradigm.

    ISOs create a much cleaner cycle of benefit and reinvestment for all involved. After an initial donor investment, most ISOs are built on models of sustainability that cover their administrative costs through services rendered to the nonprofit community.

    ISOs provide a much more efficient way to insure that all the nonprofits a donor uses to meet its objectives operate at peak efficiency. Most donors fund initiatives vertically, by program area. However, capacity issues cut horizontally across the entire portfolio of nonprofits they support to achieve these objectives. Donors can opt to employ intermediaries to fill in the capacity gaps of their entire portfolio rather than approaching the issue from the perspective of individual institutions which change from year to year.

    Tutormentor in fact sounds like it fits the ISO definition as an information aggregator.

    TutorMentor: I agree with the need for information and thats why I also created a peer reveiwed nonprofit capacity support portal called capaciteria.org. It has over 1000 resources catagorized in 100 different subsets. I don't know if you have heard of it despite it being in many nonprofit publications and listserves. That is sometimes the problem. Although free, on the net, and reasonably publicized -- not everyone who should know about it does. Thank god for sites like Idealist.org which break through the noise.

    RGDS

    JP


    tutormentor - Aug 9, 2006 4:41 pm (# Total: 25)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    One more step

    Jonathan, thanks for your outline. I'll read the article. I agree, that the T/MC fits the defination of an ISO. However, we go one step further that I've not seen on Capaciteria.org (which I have visited) or any other site.

    We lead actions that draw volunteers and donors directly to the organizations listed on our web site. For instance, we're leading a volunteer recruitment campaign in Chicago as school starts in late August/Sept.  In addition, we've helped create the Abraham Lincoln Marovitz Lend A Hand Program at the Chicago Bar Association, which has raised and granted more than $450,000 to various volunteer based tutor/mentor programs in Chicago since 1995.

    Getting information, getting people to look at it and understand it, then getting them to respond as volunteers, leaders and/or donors in support of one or more tutor/mentor programs, is our mission, and one we hope others will duplicate.

    It's when the friend you know becomes a friend and donor of others that our true capacity as leaders is unleashed.

     



    jpeizer - Aug 10, 2006 7:27 am (# Total: 25)
    Jonathan Peizer

    Agreed.

    Tutormentor,

    I appreciate the difference, Capaciteria is an information site designed to foster peer review that qualifies the resources and encourages people to add their own links. In fact since its inception about 35% of the links and all the ratings and reviews have been added by its users.Its a resource you might refer you constiuency too, and also hope you'd want tutormentor to be on. Its focus and objective is to be nd easy to use database aggregator of capacity resources that a nonprofit can use in its work.

    RGDS

    JP


    tutormentor - Aug 10, 2006 3:27 pm (# Total: 25)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Create a blueprint; create a shares sense of "noticeable effect"

    Jonathan,

    Thanks for pointing to the article titled The Revolution in Nonprofit Capacity. I added it as a link in the philanthropy section of the http://www.tutormentorconnection.org links library.

    While the article had many important lessons, below are two points that I highlighted:

    "Noticeable effect is important to donors because their constituents, board members or living donors expect the money they expend to demonstrate tangible results.

    Unfortunately, the donor grantee-relationship is not appropriately defined as a partnership of equals providing different types of resources to meet the same objectives. "

    To me this is the crux of the problem. Charity is selfless, in its purest form it in anonymous. What's described in this section suggests less interest in the social problem and more on the ego or self interest of the donor.

    In another statement you said, "Unfortunately, the donor grantee-relationship is not appropriately defined as a partnership of equals providing different types of resources to meet the same objectives."

    In many places on my web site I use the word "blueprint". In others I have links to sites that illustrate concepts like mind mapping, concept mapping, knowledge management, etc.

    My goal is to bring together a team of self-interested people who have the collective ability to create visual blueprints that show who all needs to be involved, and how this changes over the 25 years it takes for a youth born in poverty today to be starting a job in 25 years.

    My aim is to educate donors and non profits and community leaders to think like the partners who work together to create buildings in the community.  They are building the Trump Tower in Chicago. This project has needed a team of people to create and define the vision, find the funding, create the blueprints, then find the contractors and workers who will be needed for two to three years to do the right thing at the right time and in the right way if this building is to be completed.

    Every one of these people has to be skilled at what they do and paid to do it. The all have different roles in the project but other than the name of on the building, they all need to share in the work and the responsibility.

    If we can create on-line blueprints that show the many people needed to be involved in addressing any social issue, in any place in the world, or in every place in the world, those donors who share the same goal will see that they have a role that is just as important as the people who put in the electrical wiring.  The building won't stand without each doing his/her work.

    If we can put this concept on the Internet, then we can begin to teach kids to understand this concept as they grow up. Maybe 20 or 30 years from now when they are adults this will be habit.

    I'm almost 60 so probably won't be alive then. However, unless we can find ways to teach this concept, the world will be facing the same problems then as it is now, and maybe those probems will be worse.

    When I say "we" in the context of my organization, this means me, and anyone who wants to help. In the larger context it means anyone else who may already be thinking this way and may already be further along on this concept. If I find them I can borrow ideas and contribute ideas and together we can move this forward as two or three whispers who make a bit more noise.



    jpeizer - Aug 11, 2006 2:12 pm (# Total: 25)
    Jonathan Peizer

    Another resource

    Tutormentor,

    I explored that donor-grantee relationship furhter in an article to be published later this year. you might find it interesting...

    Nonprofit Philanthropy: More Charles Darwin than Adam Smith?

    http://internautconsulting.com/articles-philanthropy.shtm

    RGDS

    JP


    tutormentor - Aug 13, 2006 7:45 am (# Total: 25)
    Cabrini Connections Tutor/Mentor Connection

    Increasing visibility for non profits; connecting with donors

    Jonathan, thanks for the second article. It's like, When in Rome, Do as the Romans. However, Rome collapsed. I want to believe that there can be a better way. Why? Becasue there are so many who need help that it's unacceptable not to try to fix the funding system.

    I visited www.capaciteria.org and noticed that not too many people are posting messages in the discussion forum. If you visit http://www.tutormentorconnection.org you'll see the same. Even at Social Edge, it does not look like more than a few people are contributing to in any discussion.

    Thus, I propose to anyone who is interested that we work together to build traffic in each other's sites. How? By starting discussions, like this one at Social Edge, where we each work to draw traffic, and where we each point to similar or related discussions in our own sites.

    Thus, I posted a message in the Capaciteria forum, inviting anyone who is interested, to go to the T/MC site. I encourage you to do the same in the T/MC forum. If you go to http://www.mentoring.org/community, you'll see that I do the same in other forums where there are people who might be interested in the issues that I focus on. While this can be done randomly with effect, I think we can be more strategic. Over the 365 day calendar, I use 4 - 8 days to host a May and November Conference in Chicago, and to host on-line discussions. If I can attract more visible people to participate in these events, their participation will draw more traffic.

    If others who partner with me choose other dates on the calendar, which are strategic to the work they do, I can be part of their forums, and others can help them attract more visible people. If we're participating with a goal of encouraging some of the people to come to our own site, it makes sense to be involved with others throughout the year, and to help the others draw as much visibility, and traffic as possible.

    What I'm describing costs nothing but time. Yet the result can be more traffic in many places.

    At Omidyar.net a similar discussion is taking place. I encourage you to read Phil Cubeta's post at http://www.omidyar.net/group/conference/news/50/27/ . He talks of getting the "right people" to an event, or into a process.

    That's my goal. I cannot do it by myself and I'm not sure who else can succeed by themself (unless they already are at the top of the food chain, like the Gates and Buffetts of the world).

    If we draw people who care about solving social issues to such discussions on an on-going basis, some may begin to think of ways to use their funds to fuel on-going process improvement rather than what seems to happen in so many places now.

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