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Poverty, Human Rights, and the Global Society

Hosted by Theresa Fay-Bustillos (October 2009)

povertyIn a speech delivered by proxy in 1994, the Myanmar Nobel laureate and human rights activist Ang San Suu Kyi, then under house arrest in her home country, argued that economic development would not produce the culture of peace and democracy that the poor need in order to feel empowered and enfranchised. 

In the face of the economic downturn of the past year, the same might be said for the poor even in developed countries where democratic traditions seem firmly established, and where at least domestic peace has prevailed. One might conclude that, no matter where we stand in the course of national development, market-style economic instruments will not secure us the fulfillment that Aung San Suu Kyi’s rights discourse seems to promise.

Since 1948, the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights has served as the standard for international efforts to establish rule of law and a modicum of peace and justice around the globe. At the same time, most of the signatories to the Declaration do not completely live up to the challenge expressed in the document, and the universality of the Declaration has been challenged on grounds that it expresses a Western hegemonic intent towards Asian countries and cultures. Malaysia’s Mahathir bin Mohamad has been perhaps the most vociferous proponent of this view, but it might equally be read out of Lee Kuan Yew’s complex invocation of Western as well as Confucian values as he built his Singaporean success story, and similar claims for traditional values from the leaders of developing countries in the Middle East and Africa.

As we continue to address the problem of global poverty, we will need to determine what standard we apply, at the level of multi-lateral as well as non-governmental organizations, to ensure that the UN Declaration either stands or—if it is deemed irrelevant because outdated—does not obstruct the establishment of a different standard by which to engage in helping the world’s poor. 

We have seen versions of that other standard in the proselytizing for a globalized market economics; nativist political agendas; more evolved, pluralist, cultural traditions such as the democratic institutions Amartya Sen identifies in traditional cultures; and religious fundamentalism that resurrects old values for a new era.

In order to get at the beginnings of a solution, we might ask the following questions:   

What are the intellectual property rights and social capital of the poor?

Is political freedom possible without economic independence?

Property rights and wealth underpin social organization and governance in virtually every society. Given that truth, does economic development by definition upset traditional community values and power?

What role do religious groups play in countering or reinforcing the last half-century’s rights discourse?

Join Theresa Fay-Bustillos in the conversation.

First of all, what's so great about Capitalism?

Posted by Al Wroblewski at Oct 06, 2009 11:14 PM
Implicitly, have we pledged ourselves to put a moral face on Capitalism? Is the issue of Capitalism itself off limits to this discussion? I personally believe Capitalism is maxxed out. It has gone as far as it can. At the same time I am realistic enough to advocate a dual path: milk Capitalism for all its worth in terms of social good while experimenting with alternatives. I believe the innovative thinking of Antonio Gramsci, the Italian Communist, who advocated counter-hegemonic institutions in opposition to Fascism was on target. He strongly pushed for creation of alternative economic forms. Along with Gramsci I like Paulo Freire, the Brazilian educator, who plunged deep into a facet of liberation theology which celebrated the deep consciousness within everyone; a consciousness commonly suppressed by oppression but realizable by radical pedagogy. Both Gramsci and Freire were bold enough to look beyond the dominant political/economic constructs of their day. We should do the same. Or, at a minimum, we should not take as given that Capitalism can achieve the humanist goals we all hold dear.

First of all, what's so great about Capitalism?

Posted by Jeff Mowatt at Oct 07, 2009 03:51 AM
Not much Al, in its orthodox form.

The P-CED starting point is a critique of the model which leads to a proposition that it can be re-aligned to serve people and not numbers and the fundamental predicate that people are not disposable.

http://www.p-ced.com/about/background/

I note that for all we hear of various "new forms" of capitalism, none have taken the trouble to make such a definition.

On the political front, we compare the stance of competing ideologies toward disposability, both human and environmental over the past century.

http://www.p-ced.com/projects/ukraine/sumy/

  


First of all, what's so great about Capitalism?

Posted by Theresa Fay-Bustillos at Oct 07, 2009 11:51 AM
Capitalism is not off limits, but are there alternatives that embrace humanism and economic opportunity beyond theoretical debate? If capitalism is maxxed out, this suggests that change is already happening. If so, how do we influence that change? How do we grow competitive models that embrace human rights and economic growth?

Innovation for socio-economic development throgh market

Posted by Laxmi prakash Sermwal at Oct 07, 2009 09:35 AM
Hi,

The details I have find about the initiatives at:

http://www.centreforcivicdrivenchange.org/[…]/

Innovation for socio-economic development throgh market

Posted by Theresa Fay-Bustillos at Oct 07, 2009 12:13 PM
Thanks for bringing social entrepreneurship into the discussion. Is social entrepreneurship an alternative model that could influence capitalism positively? What about the role of consumers in this discussion? In this economic climate are consumers willing to reward social entrepreneurship at a level that matters?

Innovation for socio-economic development throgh market

Posted by Jeff Mowatt at Oct 08, 2009 11:31 AM
In a word - yes, modifying the output of capitalism for social purpose was the starting point for us.

In an interview with the leader of an Islamic diaspora, which marks the beginning of our UK based social business, my colleague Terry relates his "swords to plowshares" objectives, the deployment of social enterprise and how he began with a thesis for an alternate economic model.

http://www.iccrimea.org/scholarly/economicdev.html

Another illustration is in the 'Marshall Plan' strategy for Ukraine where in the Summary and Conclusions he proposes the concept of a social enterprise investment fund at the equivalent cost of weekly spending in Iraq.

http://en.for-ua.com/analytics/2007/08/09/110003.html

Innovation for socio-economic development throgh market

Posted by Theresa Fay-Bustillos at Oct 08, 2009 11:53 PM
Very interesting, but what are the social impacts? As Ang San Suu Kyi questions, do market style economic instruments produce the culture of peace and democracy for the poor to feel empowered and enfranchised? Would love to hear more?

Innovation for socio-economic development throgh market

Posted by Jeff Mowatt at Oct 09, 2009 04:53 AM
We learned only yesterday of a fairly significant impact. Up to this moment results were policy changes, such as Ukraine's decision to create 400+ rehab centres and double the adoption allowance, which were described in Part 1 of the paper. USAID responded to the social enterprise component in launching the East Europe Foundation.

The most significant result is that the investment in activism and advocacy has paved the way for a turnaround in domestic adoption of orphans. Why pay institutions twice as much as foster parents where funds are often siphoned by organised crime? The argument for change being both economic and compassionate.

I blogged yesterday on how this reasoning started to turn the tide, as part of the overall proposal to foster democracy though access to information, promotion of social enterprise and establishing the economic conditions for family life to flourish.

http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=136324

I used the term social impact investing because this is how such a concept of social business being measured in terms of delivering outcomes was recently described with the recent launch of the GIIN

Jeff

 

Poverty reduction

Posted by Paul Rigterink at Oct 07, 2009 04:06 PM
Can market-style economic development produce the culture of peace and democracy that the poor need to feel empowered and enfranchised? Yes, to achieve poverty reduction goals in a particular nation or region, by a particular date and at a specific cost requires primarily the use of a proven technical approach. In Colombia, I have supplied BOP farmers and University of Cordoba personnel with tropical fruit tree seeds, moringa seeds, and micro-irrigation equipment. I now would like to supply BOP farmers and University of Cordoba personnel with high quality poultry breeding stock suitable for backyard farms so I can demonstrate improved backyard poultry technology. I feel that Cordoba personnel should try to repeat the UN FAO success in West Bengal India as described in “A Backyard Poultry Value Chain Increases Assets, Income and Nutrition” which can be found at http://sapplpp.org/[…]/91b5e80af8e97248aff0138f168d083a. I estimate I will improve the lives of at least 100,000 of the poorest women in Cordoba within 10 years with this approach. I am being helped by the local, Government, the local church, and the local universities. See http://home.comcast.net/~prigter/site/for more information.

Is political freedom possible without economic independence? Political freedom enables economic independence.

Property rights and wealth underpin social organization and governance in virtually every society. Given that truth, does economic development by definition upset traditional community values and power? Yes, economic development does produce the culture of peace and democracy that the poor need to feel empowered and enfranchised

What role do religious groups play in countering or reinforcing the last half-century’s rights discourse? It is very hard to help the poor if they have too many children. Religious groups must address this problem.

Poverty reduction

Posted by Theresa Fay-Bustillos at Oct 08, 2009 11:51 PM
Impressive focus on economic development focused on BOP farmers, but what has been the impact on the farmers and their families, particularly the women from a social perspective? What has changed from the increased economic security? You say that political freedom enables economic independence, for everyone? Equally? Can we achieve peace and democracy through economic development without respecting local cultures and governance structures? In society's with too few children and aging populations, they often have to rely on "foreign" labor, so is having too many children really the problem?

Would love to hear more, interesting ideas.

Poverty reduction

Posted by Paul Rigterink at Oct 09, 2009 03:46 PM
What has been the impact on the farmers and their families, particularly the women from a social perspective? The Government of the state of Cordoba has many women in high level positions including the Governor, many mayors, the head of economic development, etc. Colombia has many women in high level Government positions. Many of the poor are women because many of the boys die when they are young or they are killed in local violence. There are many more women than men in Cordoba. If the poor women can earn an income, they do not have to beg to feed their children.

What has changed from the increased economic security? Increased economic security has helped women more than men. Almost all children did not get past the 3rd grade when I was first there. Now many more children are in school than before. More people can read.

You say that political freedom enables economic independence, for everyone? Equally? Increased political freedom has helped women more than men in Cordoba. It is very dangerous for men as well as women in Cordoba.

Can we achieve peace and democracy through economic development without respecting local cultures and governance structures? 45 years ago I worked primarily in small rural villages in Corodoba. These villages had been burned to the ground 10 years before I arrived during in the “Violencia” period. Most of my Colombian male friends from 45 years ago were either killed, fled, died of disease, or forced to become members of the FARC guerilla movement. The guerillas did not respect local cultures or governance structures. A Cuba guerilla was told to kill me according to the local population (he was run out of the area; the local population (especially the poor people) protect me). I know many men who have been killed. Many people in Cordoba had to flee to the slums of Cartagena so that they would not be killed by the guerillas. I don't believe the poorest people in Cordoba care about local cultures or governance. They need jobs, food, and security from harm. I believe that supplying these people with the capital goods they need to make a living helps the most (even more than microfinancing).

In societies with too few children and aging populations, they often have to rely on "foreign" labor, so is having too many children really the problem? Yes. Many of the poorest women in Cordoba have as many children as they can have. Cordoba has mostly children and unmarried women. There is little to no “foreign” labor in Cordoba nor do many of the people from Cordoba get jobs elsewhere. Even though many people have had to flee, population growth is out of control in Cordoba.

Freedom from fear

Posted by jo davidson at Oct 07, 2009 08:29 PM

Hi Theresa, as Ang San Suu Kyi had said - in the marketplace, "it is not power that corrupts but fear," and fear is everywhere.

To try to end the never-ending cycle of the hegemony, that creates the fear, we need only to look at the example of what happened when women got the vote - (one by one, in countries around the globe, without sanctions, military action, or attempts at a coup, using non-violent protests for progress too.)

In a parallel, we can see that the accompanying economic opportunity was not automatic or even possible without the political vote (to provide the economic freedoms for the time)- in promoting the culture of peace and prosperity that followed, not just for women, but for men and entire societies.

In the world today, we know there's still no guarantee for peace and prosperity. I agree with UNDP, Helen Clark- "development cannot be achieved if 50% of the population is excluded from the opportunities it brings." We know from history, political freedom and economic empowerment go hand-in-hand in creating economic opportunity and empowerment and of course, everything is all tied in. Emancipate women, and societies are transformed.

Different religious ideologies have definitely played a part in countering the emancipation of women, (through the ages) do they stand in progress's way?

yes

Freedom from fear

Posted by Theresa Fay-Bustillos at Oct 09, 2009 12:02 AM
Freedom From Fear, that could be a book title, I hope you will consider it! Fear is a paralyzing force for change, political freedom and everything else... Thank you for bringing the discussion back to human rights. Can we really talk about economic development if we don't face the lack of human rights in the world? I agree with your comments about women and the opportunity for change a focus on women represents. Look at the focus of micro credit on women, but is it enough? And, what about the men?

Keep up the challenging questions.

Freedom from fear

Posted by Paul Rigterink at Oct 09, 2009 04:25 PM
In many areas of the world buying a weapon is the best investment you can make if you want to feed and protect your family. I hope that developing micro enterprises can change this situation. The advantages that microenterprises offer are:
 Labor costs are low,
 Fixed and variable costs are low (not capital or labor intensive),
 Micro-enterprises do not have a lot of resources subject to theft,
 Micro-enterprises are generally ignored by the local governance,
 Micro-entrepreneurs can provide food, water, and energy while earning a profit for their work,
 Successful business plans and business processes can be developed for people with little or no education,
 Micro-entrepreneurs will control costs and make appropriate decisions given their business,
 There are few barriers to entry for new micro-entrepreneurs.

The disadvantages that micro-enterprises face are:
 Supplies needed by micro-entrepreneurs are not always available (Areas in which they work are not easily accessible; this is a major problem),
 Micro-entrepreneurs are undereducated and often unwell,
 Successful business plans and business processes are not being provided at the local level,
 High crime-rate affects profits of micro-enterprises (Theft of equipment/livestock).

I don't believe there are a lot of evil people in the world. However, there are lots and lots of desperate people who have many good reasons to fear that they will die from hunger, disease, as well as from crime.

The Critical Religious Dimension in Development

Posted by Matt Weinberg at Oct 11, 2009 12:27 AM
It is simply no longer possible to maintain the belief that human well-being can arise from a strictly materialistic conception of life. The persistence of widespread human deprivation and despair speaks to the shortcomings of prevailing social theories and policies. Fresh approaches are required. A just social polity will emerge only when human relations and social arrangements are infused with spiritual intent, an intent characterized by an all-embracing equity, unconditional love, and an ethos of service. Addressing practical challenges with spiritual and moral understanding is no easy task. But it is to this goal that many faith-based organizations working in the development and human rights fields remain committed.

For an alternative approach to social and economic development based on the above ideas see:

http://www.bcca.org/ief/isgpsrd.htm

The Critical Religious Dimension in Development

Posted by Theresa Fay-Bustillos at Nov 14, 2009 12:22 PM
Matt,

it's true that most development efforts ignore the spiritual aspect of people and society. But, isn't one's religious views inherently personal? What religious perspectives does this approach espouse? And, if it doesn't espouse any particular religious perspective, than is it really so different than current development approaches?

You add an important challenge to this discussion that is not easy or comfortable to address.

Millenium Development Goals & Narrow Vision

Posted by srains at Oct 13, 2009 06:09 PM
Chiming in from the global disability I'd point out the tremendous frustration we feel that something as causally related to poverty as disability is in no way explicitly accounted for in the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs.) The "blind spot" is so pervasive and systemic that we have set the theme of UN International Day of Persons with Disabilities (Thursday, 3 December 2009)“Making the MDGs Inclusive." Rather than offer a simplistic answer here I just wanted to draw attention to the fact that this dialogue will be ramping up in coming months.

Millenium Development Goals & Narrow Vision

Posted by Theresa Fay-Bustillos at Nov 14, 2009 12:45 PM
What about the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights? Article 25 mentions "disabilty" but Article 2 does not. Is this an issue?

does economic development compromise tradition and values

Posted by Joey Palermo at Oct 20, 2009 07:34 PM
what we have learned in recent years is how those corporations, with any degree of sensibility and empathy for their workers, (yes they exist) have incorporated profit sharing, principles of workplace democracy and knowledge management into their organizational structure. economic development that includes community involvement from the grass roots to upper management is a solution.
I see community based agencies as centers of empowerment and those that include community in central planning and exchange knowledge, provide the constructive means of maintaining traditional values and can develop an economy in that area.

does economic development compromise tradition and values

Posted by Theresa Fay-Bustillos at Nov 14, 2009 12:51 PM
But doesn't Aung San Suu Kyi talk about the need for the poor to perceive themselves and the world differently? Isn't this what she calls empowerment? So, is it enough for corporations or community-based agencies to embrace their workers or workplace democracy? Is empowerment about power-sharing or is it about how one perceives themselves and their role in society?

Poverty is due to lack of ethics and commitment.

Posted by Dr. Rajeevan Moothal at Oct 31, 2009 09:04 AM
Brothers and sisters of the world,
 Where you have been searching in darkness in all these years? What you have learned and understood about many problems of people and life around the world? It is a pity that one eats for four people and drink and party and talk about poverty ! Such idiots are identified first and should be thrown out of the system and atleast in the research responsibilities of social problems. Personal discipline is the most important thing and commitment and the ability to sacrifice the comfrot of life are the important qualities that one require. otherwise you can do nothing!! It is good you talk and project this and that.
 But my brothers most are poor because the system keep them as poor. Lack of education, population explosion and the non-support from the able bodies of the society are the real reasons why poverty is still there in the society. So if you want to change the life of people educate them, make them to think innovate their life, give them ideas and some work and they can sustain them selves.. it not possible to eradicate poverty completely. As life is diverse poor and rich will be always there. Even UN has targets to eradicate poverty completely by 2015. I feel like laughing at them Are they all such silly people to talk about this important issue so lightly.
  UI have a great plan to minimise poverty (talk about minimising and ot eradicating!) by education, sustainable enevironmental management and adopting supporting employment for the women and youth of the develoing and underdeveloped countries.
  But educating the poor masses is the fundamental and final method to minimise the problem of poverty.

Poverty is due to lack of ethics and commitment.

Posted by Theresa Fay-Bustillos at Nov 14, 2009 01:06 PM
Isn't this what Aung San Suu Kyi espoused many years ago? Alleviation of poverty requires that systems and processes change the way the poor perceive of themselves and the world?

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Posted by Anthony DeCapite at Nov 04, 2009 04:38 PM
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http://www.dayoflightmovie.com/trailer/

You can see this movie for FREE at the Artivists Film Festival - December 5, 3:15 PM, Egyptian Theater, Los Angeles.

http://www.artivists.org/

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